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    Auction House

    Are we still getting this auction house feature? Or a trading system?? I have over 200 extra copies of cards including Epic and Rare cards. However I have been saving these cards for years in case of Amy trading system or auction system. But now I'm on the brink of giving up so I ask. Will there be an auction house or trading system? Or do I sell my collection of extra cards and unwanted foils?

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    Almost all non-foil cards might as well be sold now.

    As far as I know, when the Auction House starts up, the Merchant will pretty much only have stock bought from other players (instead of restocking himself as he does now), and his prices will be linked to the auction prices. This could mean some cards drop hugely in value (e.g. Drain Power) because he has such a surplus of them and no one wants them. On the flip-side, some cards could increase in value due to the demand, but this is where the Merchant exception will kick in - if a given card's price goes "too high" (where "too high" is determined at Wulven's discretion) then the Merchant will manufacture copies himself so as not to lead to insanely huge prices for the most in-demand cards (which would cause hoarding and pay-2-win issues).

    For the foils, you will either have to wait for the auction house or just sell for double value of a non-foil to the Merchant if you really want to sell it. Likely each foil will be worth more than this when auction house launches, but it is there as an option in case someone who finds a foil in a booster pack would prefer the gold right now (e.g. building their non-foil collection).

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    Cool. But sounds like we're only dealing with gold as the in-game currency exchanged. That's unfortunate.

    I would prefer to sell my duplicate foil cards for some beer. Or possibly some prescription medications

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    Almost all non-foil cards might as well be sold now.

    As far as I know, when the Auction House starts up, the Merchant will pretty much only have stock bought from other players (instead of restocking himself as he does now), and his prices will be linked to the auction prices. This could mean some cards drop hugely in value (e.g. Drain Power) because he has such a surplus of them and no one wants them. On the flip-side, some cards could increase in value due to the demand, but this is where the Merchant exception will kick in - if a given card's price goes "too high" (where "too high" is determined at Wulven's discretion) then the Merchant will manufacture copies himself so as not to lead to insanely huge prices for the most in-demand cards (which would cause hoarding and pay-2-win issues).

    For the foils, you will either have to wait for the auction house or just sell for double value of a non-foil to the Merchant if you really want to sell it. Likely each foil will be worth more than this when auction house launches, but it is there as an option in case someone who finds a foil in a booster pack would prefer the gold right now (e.g. building their non-foil collection).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    As far as I know, when the Auction House starts up, the Merchant will pretty much only have stock bought from other players (instead of restocking himself as he does now), and his prices will be linked to the auction prices. This could mean some cards drop hugely in value (e.g. Drain Power) because he has such a surplus of them and no one wants them. On the flip-side, some cards could increase in value due to the demand, but this is where the Merchant exception will kick in - if a given card's price goes "too high" (where "too high" is determined at Wulven's discretion) then the Merchant will manufacture copies himself so as not to lead to insanely huge prices for the most in-demand cards (which would cause hoarding and pay-2-win issues).
    Assuming gold remains the Merchant currency this is a very bad way to handle potential hoarding imo. Merchant should never kick in and manufacture more copies as it will greatly affect the value of the in house auction to the point it will be pointless to sell our extra cards and you won't get any real value out of it. If I want to sell my Aldon 2000 gold a piece more power to me. Someone will jump in and offer his own at a discount price. Even if no one does, not having access to Aldon isn't game breaking imo. There's sens that you guys are afraid to make money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander Spitfire View Post
    Assuming gold remains the Merchant currency this is a very bad way to handle potential hoarding imo. Merchant should never kick in and manufacture more copies as it will greatly affect the value of the in house auction to the point it will be pointless to sell our extra cards and you won't get any real value out of it. If I want to sell my Aldon 2000 gold a piece more power to me. Someone will jump in and offer his own at a discount price. Even if no one does, not having access to Aldon isn't game breaking imo. There's sens that you guys are afraid to make money.

    I would think that if you wanted to sell your Aldon for 2,000 gold, you're welcome to go for it. But if you're the only one selling Aldon and/or have all your in-game buddies hold-off on selling their stocks of Aldon, then the Auction House police may step in. Aldon is a bad card example for this illustration, but the point is same. It all boils down to how liberally that "discretion" is applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander Spitfire View Post
    Assuming gold remains the Merchant currency this is a very bad way to handle potential hoarding imo. Merchant should never kick in and manufacture more copies as it will greatly affect the value of the in house auction to the point it will be pointless to sell our extra cards and you won't get any real value out of it. If I want to sell my Aldon 2000 gold a piece more power to me. Someone will jump in and offer his own at a discount price. Even if no one does, not having access to Aldon isn't game breaking imo. There's sens that you guys are afraid to make money.
    I think you're assuming "too high" is lower than it could be. Aldon at 2000 seems fine to me. But there HAS to be a fail-safe in there to prevent malicious people from stockpiling cards to deny others by pricing them out. There is enough gold out there that someone wishing to stockpile could just buy up every cheap copy offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    I think you're assuming "too high" is lower than it could be. Aldon at 2000 seems fine to me. But there HAS to be a fail-safe in there to prevent malicious people from stockpiling cards to deny others by pricing them out. There is enough gold out there that someone wishing to stockpile could just buy up every cheap copy offered.
    I tried stockpiling with Falseblood Cultist once upon a time. I had over 500 copies of him and the game froze in the deck builder every time I tried to add or remove him from my deck. It wasn't worth holding onto for that especially since I use him in a lot of my builds. I sold them all back and have something under 50 copies now. If the gamer still freezes with high numbers of cards I don't see it being worth holding onto (at least for me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    I think you're assuming "too high" is lower than it could be. Aldon at 2000 seems fine to me. But there HAS to be a fail-safe in there to prevent malicious people from stockpiling cards to deny others by pricing them out. There is enough gold out there that someone wishing to stockpile could just buy up every cheap copy offered.
    There's nothing malicious in stockpilling cards. You pay for them after all. Supply and demands applies after that. But sure a fail-safe maybe needed but in that case I would rather see the Merchant kicks in and offer to buy existing cards at an increased price instead.
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    Please never release the Auction House.

    The Collectible/Trading part is by far the worst feature of a card game.
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