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    Quote Originally Posted by GondorianDotCom View Post
    Yes, we did think of this already, so the live server version will make it so that if you restart within a certain time then you get the same cards. It's just not implemented yet.
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    I was wondering will be able to invite friends to games and/or see who is online via friend list?
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    I played a game of Meltdown last night. It is a lot of fun I must say and I'm glad it will be coming to digital. I didn't know this was planned

    I think 3 minutes is ok if the player knows the cards but newer players may find it little. GDC's idea is good. As an alternative, there could be a dropdown menu under Meltdown where you choose difficulty or game type or something or there could be two meltdowns in game types.

    Examples:

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    - 3 minutes to build deck

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    I dunno which of these (including GDC's idea) is easier to implement. I'm good with any of those.

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    Meltdown is ridiculously fun but I think the time to build your deck should be based from your current rating.. the lower the rating, the more time you get to build. I also think that once the time runs out, if at least 30 cards have been added already the game should automatically start rather than cancel out..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kross View Post
    Meltdown is ridiculously fun but I think the time to build your deck should be based from your current rating.. the lower the rating, the more time you get to build. I also think that once the time runs out, if at least 30 cards have been added already the game should automatically start rather than cancel out..
    Nice suggestions! They may not make it in this time, but there will be room for tweaking in future.

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    In my negligence, I hadn't noticed until now that several of the issues that I wrote about in a separate thread have already been under discussion here. Shame on me.

    First of all, after giving it some extra thought, I'm not sure if a timer-based fix to prevent "fishing" is good enough - will fishers be able to play regular games during their time penalty and then "fish" again? Even with a time penalty that increases incrementally, there might be people who are willing to wait the penalties in order to get as good cards as possible, to push their win-ratio above "non-fishers".

    In every case, taking into account everything that's been said in this thread so far, here's one more idea how the system could be arranged:

    Creating a Meltdown deck could be part of the deck editor - you'd go there, select a Meltdown version (Quick Match, custom game or Tournament), click "Create a Meltdown deck"-button, and you'd get your card pool. Then you'd edit the deck just like you would a normal deck with the ability to clear and save the deck, and return later to modify it, and all this without any time limit.

    However, you could only have one Meltdown deck at any time for each version of Meltdown (one for Quick Match, one for custom games and one for Tournament play), and you wouldn't get a new card pool for a deck until you'd start a game with it against an opponent. (Cancelling the game before an opponent shows up wouldn't renew the card pool).

    In Quick Match, the moment the game would begin (with two players joined), the saved QM deck would be deleted, and the next time when the player would create a QM Meltdown deck, the card pool would be renewed. In official digital events like Tournaments though, a deck shouldn't be deleted until it's certain that it's not needed anymore (like when players play through the whole event with the same Meltdown deck). Even if there's an official event where players play each game/match with a new Meltdown deck, the data from previous decks should be saved in the case that there's a need to replay a game/match due to a sync error or such. Custom games could follow the QM principle, or have additional options if needed (for example, for games like best 2 out of 3 with the same Meltdown decks).

    As far as I can tell, the benefits of this kind of system would be:

    -Players can create their deck at their own pace without time limits in all Meltdown versions.
    -(And without time limits, whether or not switching the hero clears the deck shouldn't be much of an issue anymore.)
    -Players can create their deck ahead of custom games and Tournaments, which saves time in these events and makes them more friendly for new players.
    -Players can't "fish" for good card pools. (If they concede the game right after an opponent has joined, they'll get the normal penalties that come with losing a game.)
    -Players can't lose their deck due to errors before starting a game, since decks are saved until a game is properly started.

    EDIT: Clarified the paragraph above the list of benefits to better accommodate the different Meltdown versions.
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    ^I'm liking Awer's suggestions a lot. A time limit on building a deck while 2 players are waiting will always potentially lead to frustration when one of them has to wait, while the other one might not even be done in time. I don't see a downside to doing it his way on the other hand.

    A not-time-based fishing prevention is also the only solution if you want meltdown ratings / win ratios to at least matter a little.
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    mocking armor bug

    i noticed a bug with mocking armor where my opponent was still able to target all of my allies (none of which had protector) while mocking armor was in play. anyone else notice this?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Cricket View Post
    i noticed a bug with mocking armor where my opponent was still able to target all of my allies (none of which had protector) while mocking armor was in play. anyone else notice this?



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    What card did your opponent target your allies with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin JF View Post
    What card did your opponent target your allies with?
    he targeted them with Banebows shadow ability and also a lightning strike

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