Huge drop in number of high ranked players playing games

[Kingedhorn]

Grrrrrr...... Yeah Kyle, do it....... Grrrrrrrrrrr!

[N3rd4Christ]

Ratings Wipe Please!!!!
We all want it lol. Even high Ranked Players.... Cmon

im 470ish (going up and down, mostly down) and i wont mind it.

[Calmdown]

If you're reading this thread and you DO want a ratings wipe, please post so! until the previous post it was basically me arguing with a handful of people who are against it for various reasons, but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are for it. Don't agree silently, say something!

[bob21218]

If you're reading this thread and you DO want a ratings wipe, please post so! until the previous post it was basically me arguing with a handful of people who are against it for various reasons, but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are for it. Don't agree silently, say something!

how about a poll?

[Bashere]

I'm fine either way to be honest. A fresh slate with no explotting seems awesome. BUT is there not still issues ith being able to read other peoples hands. I read in another post that there are currently 3 ways of determining what your opponent has. I thinkthe thread was Shadow Era BOTS.

Shouldn't this issue be addressed first? Otherwise even a wipe would be meaningless. I just don't want to jump the gun only to find out ratings are still being gamed anyway.

[Montag451]

If you're reading this thread and you DO want a ratings wipe, please post so! until the previous post it was basically me arguing with a handful of people who are against it for various reasons, but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are for it. Don't agree silently, say something!

I posted the other day saying exactly that Kyle would need to do periodic ranking wipes. I don't think he believed it was an issue, but clearly I wasn't alone

[shadowshala]

This was to be expected really.

Since the fix, and people not being able to quit anymore, the number of players of reasonable rank playing has dropped off incredibly sharply. Whereas before it was a struggle to find people of 400+ rank to play and especially people of 450+, now it seems that there simply aren't people of this rank playing much at all and even the number of 350-400s has dropped off sharply.

I'm now chaining games against people ranked very low 300s, and in some cases high 200s, meaning that again the syndrome of not being able to level due to earning fractions of a point for a win is around. I havent lost against one of these yet but the simple fact is that decent players do exist at lower levels and both luck and first turn can occasionally beat you in SE and losing to players of this level is going to drag you down 20 games' worth of rating.

The only solution to this? Stats Wipe. 450-550 players are not going to play in order to keep their precious ranking (a ranking which would be nigh impossible under non-exploitable circumstances) which leaves the whole system broken.

Wipe stats and fix it!


*disclaimer: this is not backed up by hard stats, just lots of observation, game refreshing, and looking at the rnak of games being played.

Why not just do reset on 450+ or 430 + or 400 + whatever number

Resetting the whole ranking is bad imo.

Either we put decay rating on +400 (means the rating drops every 3 days if you do not play or something like that)

Or just do reset on 450 + or w/e number

[lightside]

+1 to this whole thread. It's great to see all the options and ideas being discussed about fixing the rating system. I am not married to any one solution presented here, but I am in support of doing SOMETHING to fix the ratings.

If I had to choose, I would vote for a one-time change, instead of the seasonal reset. I sometimes will go weeks or months out of gaming for work or personal reasons, and it would suck to be rating 0-100 after every couple of months, playing through lowbies to get back up to 300+ players. (it would probably really suck for the lowbies, too).

[Yagu]

I'm now chaining games against people ranked very low 300s, and in some cases high 200s, meaning that again the syndrome of not being able to level due to earning fractions of a point for a win is around. I havent lost against one of these yet but the simple fact is that decent players do exist at lower levels and both luck and first turn can occasionally beat you in SE and losing to players of this level is going to drag you down 20 games' worth of rating.

Exactly! This seems to be a real problem. Threads and polls around this topic a re coming up fast.
Necessary steps toward a representative ranking should be:
1.Reset the rating.
2.Get a rating decay system.
3.Match players by ranking so games you play a worth something.

Btw, these are no inovations at all. It's common in almost all competative multiplayer games I have played so far.

[Jovai]

Tournaments. Drafts. Fan Streams. SCII, SSFIV, Magic. . . BLC to a lesser degree. Rankings... meh.