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    Huge drop in number of high ranked players playing games

    This was to be expected really.

    Since the fix, and people not being able to quit anymore, the number of players of reasonable rank playing has dropped off incredibly sharply. Whereas before it was a struggle to find people of 400+ rank to play and especially people of 450+, now it seems that there simply aren't people of this rank playing much at all and even the number of 350-400s has dropped off sharply.

    I'm now chaining games against people ranked very low 300s, and in some cases high 200s, meaning that again the syndrome of not being able to level due to earning fractions of a point for a win is around. I havent lost against one of these yet but the simple fact is that decent players do exist at lower levels and both luck and first turn can occasionally beat you in SE and losing to players of this level is going to drag you down 20 games' worth of rating.

    The only solution to this? Stats Wipe. 450-550 players are not going to play in order to keep their precious ranking (a ranking which would be nigh impossible under non-exploitable circumstances) which leaves the whole system broken.

    Wipe stats and fix it!


    *disclaimer: this is not backed up by hard stats, just lots of observation, game refreshing, and looking at the rnak of games being played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmdown View Post
    This was to be expected really.

    Since the fix, and people not being able to quit anymore, the number of players of reasonable rank playing has dropped off incredibly sharply. Whereas before it was a struggle to find people of 400+ rank to play and especially people of 450+, now it seems that there simply aren't people of this rank playing much at all and even the number of 350-400s has dropped off sharply.

    I'm now chaining games against people ranked very low 300s, and in some cases high 200s, meaning that again the syndrome of not being able to level due to earning fractions of a point for a win is around. I havent lost against one of these yet but the simple fact is that decent players do exist at lower levels and both luck and first turn can occasionally beat you in SE and losing to players of this level is going to drag you down 20 games' worth of rating.

    The only solution to this? Stats Wipe. 450-550 players are not going to play in order to keep their precious ranking (a ranking which would be nigh impossible under non-exploitable circumstances) which leaves the whole system broken.

    Wipe stats and fix it!
    Or add decay to ratings.
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    Heard Kyle saying he is considering decay rating.

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    I liked the fact that a few of the top ranked gamers i kept track of cos i saw them play, dropped between 10-30 pts. once the exploit fix came in... then yeah, never see them on anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padawan Pete View Post
    Or add decay to ratings.
    Decay definitely needs to be added.

    But I don't understand the current stance.

    "Our multiplayer was exploitable" - check
    "We're considering adding decay" - check

    It's blindingly obvious that the current rankings are basically all irrelevent, so why keep them? At all?
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    Some people didnt cheat, so like myself, I would lose my 428 ranking just because of a few people who did cheat. I would prefer to keep it and let the others naturally fall of the table over time using a decay method.
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    I really don't need to deal with 500,000 support emails of "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY RATING??!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I really don't need to deal with 500,000 support emails of "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY RATING??!!"
    Is posting an article on the game's frontpage hard?

    Is an auto responder to emails including the word 'rating' difficult?

    You know we love you (and SE) but jesus, that's an unusual approach to customer service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmdown View Post
    This was to be expected really.

    Since the fix, and people not being able to quit anymore,
    I'd say since fix, peoples not being abble to play anymore, with random defeat screen appearing

    I m not top rating, but I don't play anymore too

    waiting for a working game...

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    Remind me what do you get for being ranked high?

    Is there a prize or something? if not, then if you're good you would eventually reach higher ranks. What's the problem here again? I don't understand it.

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