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    UPDATE: We have removed the change to Gloomwielder, so it will stay as it is in 3.13.

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    Woooooot? Do you not like Aldmor?
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    This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    UPDATE: We have removed the change to Gloomwielder, so it will stay as it is in 3.13.
    Sad, any idea how much longer? and while you're at it making more changes go ahead and make F Horror unfreezable he is a 6cc and deserves it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    UPDATE: We have removed the change to Gloomwielder, so it will stay as it is in 3.13.
    Why is the reason? If you´re worried about moonstalker abusing from him, add "While your hero has shadow energy stored, other Aldmor allies without stealth and protector you control can't be targeted by summoned abilities by opposing players."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Why is the reason? If you´re worried about moonstalker abusing from him, add "While your hero has shadow energy stored, other Aldmor allies without stealth and protector you control can't be targeted by summoned abilities by opposing players."
    We would like to give the current version more time to be used in light of other changes.


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    ll001 - Vigilant Wisp - Health reduced to 4HP (from 5HP).
    --- ok, NERF

    ll003 - Unaxio Squire - Base attack increased to 1 (from 0). Ability changed to "Meek (this ally can't attack heroes). 0: Until the start of your next turn, target other friendly ally has +1 attack (or +2 attack if it's a Templar ally)." (from "0: Until the start of your next turn, target friendly ally has +1 attack (or +2 attack if it's another Templar ally).").
    --- no matter how you look t it, this is a NERF

    ll010 - Avatar of Twilight - Base attack increased to 5 (from 4). Health increased to 5HP (from 4HP).
    --- ok, a BUFF, wooo, finally.

    ll016 - Flame Spitter - Base attack reduced to 1 (from 2). Ability changed to "When an opposing hero or ally enters combat with Flame Spitter, that hero or ally takes 2 fire damage." (from "When an opposing hero or ally enters combat with Flame Spitter, that hero or ally takes 1 fire damage.").
    --- on paper, this is a very slight BUFF. makes it slightly better on defense, but doesnt make it any more playable than it was.

    ll017 - Sword Gobbler - Ability changed to "While you control a weapon, Sword Gobbler has +2 attack. When Sword Gobbler is summoned, you may exile target weapon in a graveyard and Sword Gobbler gains +1 base attack and +1 health." (from "While you control a weapon, Sword Gobbler has +1 attack. When Sword Gobbler is summoned, you may exile target weapon in a graveyard and Sword Gobbler gains +2 base attack and +1 health.").
    --- this is actually a NERF. instead of a permanent +2 and temporary +1, its a permanent +1 and a temporary +2 and i didnt realize it was so powerful to begin with

    ll024 - Forgotten Horror - Base attack increased to 5 (from 4).
    --- ok a BUFF but another one that doesnt really matter. not anymore playable than it was before which really wasnt much

    ll034 - Stalactitan - Activated ability added: "3: Target opposing ally is frozen for 1 turn."
    --- on paper, this is a BUFF, but really, who is gonna play it when its a more expensive jasmine. jasmine isnt played much anymore except with new players. there are much better things to use that 3cc on.

    ll035 - Void Wretch - Ability changed to "Steadfast. For each location in play, Void Wretch costs 1 less resource to summon. When a card is exiled, all opposing heroes take 1 damage. 0SE: The active location is exiled." (from "Steadfast. While there are at least 3 locations in play, Void Wretch costs 3 less resources to summon. When a card is exiled, all opposing heroes take 1 damage. 0SE: The active location is exiled.").
    --- this is a BUFF, but is another one that doesnt really matter. i dont see locations being played so much that its worth using this ally to "cast"

    ll039 - Gloomwielder - Ability changed to "While your hero has shadow energy stored, other Aldmor allies without protector you control can't be targeted by summoned abilities by opposing players." (from "While no opposing hero has more shadow energy than your hero, other Aldmor allies you control can't be targeted by summoned abilities by opposing players.").
    --- this is a BUFF and actually looks interesting. would of seen more play except, this BUFF has been killed before it even saw play. nice

    ll045 - Ancient of Aldmor - Base attack increased to 3 (from 1).
    --- on paper, this is a BUFF, but is so completely irrelavant. it doesnt even matter. even if there were a ton of cards coming that removed passive abilities... a 3/9 vanilla epic ally, will not see play over other epic allies. compare this to aeon and you see why. the ability NEEDS to be changed back to being based off your opponents SE, not your own.

    ll122 - Scriptures of the Departed - Initial durability increased to 2 (from 1).
    --- this is a BUFF but not sure it helps at all

    ll123 - Moment of Acquiescence - Ability changed to "Duration 3. When this card is destroyed, draw a card. 0SE: Target ability is discarded from your hand: target opposing ally is disabled for 1 turn (and that ally takes 2 arcane damage if you control a Templar ally)." (from "Duration 3. 0SE: Target ability is discarded from your hand: target opposing ally can't attack or defend for 1 turn (and that ally takes 2 arcane damage if you control a Templar ally).").
    --- not anything, just a wording change, just an extremely delayed cantrip

    ll132 - Tar-written Scroll - Ability changed to "1D: Target ally in a graveyard is exiled: if the exiled ally has fire attack, target opposing ally takes 2 fire damage." (from "1D: Target ally in your graveyard with fire attack is exiled: target opposing ally takes 2 fire damage.").
    --- this is a BUFF. good to remove things like shadow knight from your opponents grave or lessen the impact of soul reaper. but not sure it would have that high an impact in that area as it would be a waste of space in a non fire ally deck, still kind of is a waste of space in a fire deck without a decent warped desert. this card WAS fun in a warped desert deck and warped desert decks were only fun decks.

    ll144 - Rest for the Weary - Casting cost reduced to 3cc (from 4cc). Ability changed to "If there is a location in play, target ally is moved to the top of its owner's deck. If there are no locations in play, you draw 2 cards and each other player draws 1 card." (from "If there is a location in play, target ally is moved to the top of its owner's deck. Draw 2 cards if there are no locations in play.").
    --- this is actually a NERF, yes you reduced casting cost by one, but you gave opponent a card. so bascially that is 1cc draw for your opponent that they do not have to spend.

    ll148 - Shadow Cannon - Passive ability added: "When Shadow Cannon is summoned while you control an Aldmor ally, your hero gains +2 shadow energy."
    --- this is a BUFF, but another one that doesnt make all that much difference. you have to play aldmor, the cost of the card is still too much. we will see but i dont think it will see anymore play that it does now

    ll181 - Lorhon: Twilight Encampment - Turn Number reduced to T3 (from T5). Controller ability changed to "0SE: Target friendly Twilight ally is killed: Seek a Twilight ally and your hero loses 1 shadow energy." (from "1SE: Target friendly Twilight ally is killed: Seek a Twilight ally.").
    --- this is a BUFF... will help twilight make a come back and will get certain players to complain about them again... free seek

    ll182 - Sosilo: Brothers' Landing - Controller ability changed to "At the end of each of your turns, draw 2 cards for each ability discarded from your hand that turn." (from "1SE: At the end of the turn, draw 2 cards for each ability or location discarded from your hand this turn"). Non-controller activation cost increased to 1SE (from 0SE)
    --- this is a BUFF, looks good, could be borderline OP since there is no limit on the draw. could help certain decks go above 40 cards.

    ll183 - Anmor: Garina Road - Ability replaced with "Allies with cost 4 or greater cost you 1 less resource to summon. 2SE: If you control no allies, seek an ally with cost 4 or greater. // Allies with cost 4 or greater cost you 1 less resource to summon. 0SE: If there are no opposing allies, take control of this location.".
    --- this is a BUFF over the current version. look out for priests with this one. i see nerf calls coming again

    ll184 - Irum: Lightning Quarry - Turn Number reduced to T4 (from T5).
    --- technically a buff, but does it even make a difference

    ll189 - Arthyle's Pass: Dead Man's Breach - Turn Number reduced to T3 (from T4). Controller ability changed to "Allies have meek the turn they are summoned. Friendly allies with cost 2 or less have haste and ambush." (from "Friendly allies with cost 2 or less have haste, ambush and meek the turn they are summoned."). Non-controller ability changed to "When an opposing ally with cost 2 or less is killed, that ally is exiled and its controller takes 1 damage." (from "0SE: When the next opposing ally is killed this turn, it is exiled and its controller takes 1 damage.").
    --- this is a NERF but i will admit, this one was made to look good. but the NC will kill you, no way around it. is a suicide card and i dont see that you will be able to use it and win because it is so extreme.

    ll198 - Lakmire: Training Outpost - Turn Number reduced to T3 (from T4). Non-controller ability changed to "1SE: Target opposing Wulven ally loses all passive abilities until the start of your next turn." (from "0SE: If an opposing Wulven ally has been killed this turn, all opposing allies lose 1 base attack.").
    --- i am gonna call this a NERF, simply because its a wulven location that only a non-wulven hero would use. might be a problem like it "supposedly" was before.

    ll199 - Rankett: Proving Grounds - Turn Number reduced to T3 (from T4). Controller ability changed to "1SE: If an ally gained base attack or health this turn, draw a card and all Homunculus allies gain +1 base attack and +1 health." (from "1SE: If an ally gained base attack or health this turn, draw a card and all friendly Homunculus allies gain +1 base attack and +1 health."). Non-controller ability changed to "2SE: Draw a card and all Homunculus allies are reduced by 1 health. Take control of this location." (from "3SE: All Homunculus allies are reduced by 2 health. Take control of this location.").
    --- this is a NERF, the opponent is buffed all over the place with this even if they do not have any homunculus allies, they get draw now. it might see some good use though, we will see.
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    really, this update was a buff update?

    AND damn, one of the best things in this update, isnt even going to see the light of day. congrats, really, superb.

    you need more time to release part 2? after almost 3 years? stop messing with them over and over and over and over and get them released. have you even started designing the next set yet or just still messing with LL?
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    Caitlyn,
    I disagree with many of your takes. Many that you are calling Nerfs, I'd consider Buffs, or at worst reworks that give a different way to utilize a card.

    With most of them you did a great job of showing that there is perspective involved when calling a change a nerf or buff. Very subjective.

    You can use tar written scroll with warped again with this change.
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    we will see
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    if you still are changing cards consider changing flame spitter to deal 1 fire damage and 1 poison damage instead. it would be a slight buff with raikka and it is good defense because opponents take 4 damage if they attack it. also if there are future cards maybe attachments that increase ability damage it would work good with flame spitter.

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