My apologies, you are right there are 20. I had in my head 10 classes, and I was thinking backwards. Regardless, I still thinking I would rather have 1 new hero per class as opposed to 10...

Balance out how? With more abilities? I disagree. Are the heroes we have now not viable enough that we could add 10 more heroes and make more builds playable? If there were 20 heroes people would...

Disappointing that there won't be new heroes with the next expansion. If the aim is to have a more diverse field then to me it would make sense to have a new batch of heroes with new abilities....

It'll be interesting to see where they rank when the new changes come into place. The card changes they received thus far definitely made their playability go way up. Thankfully Kyle is using a group...

Yeah, pretty much done talking to you after this on the subject Juke. You obviously are in the hunt for the "big dick" award a few pages back, so you win, congrats. Now go and talk your nonsensical...

I did not ask for a situation where it wins games. Plenty of cards could "win" games for people. I was talking about game swings, which generally happen in the middle to late game. I highly doubt...

LOL! I'm not even close to crying about the card. I don't care what they do with it, I do however believe it should change. Whether they do that or not is up to the design team. I've said my peace...

Yes GS, I know how she controls the board, and the point I was making is that she can do it without Retreat, but Juke claims it is an auto-include, I was simply pointing that out.

You gave me...

A list of ways it changes the game? Did I miss a post? You gave me one scenario involving Boris. And if board control is so important, does the most often used Eldawen deck need it?

Most every...

No, I can think of plenty of situations where bouncing an ally back gains board control. That is what the card does. But you gave a very situational game scenario that doesn't lend a whole lot of...

I agree that Retreat has the ability to shift tempo, but nowhere near as much as Font, especially when Logan is not sending the ally back to your hand, but is straight out destroying it. Retreat is...

You are giving one example of one hero when Font affects or powers multiple heroes and multiple situations. Give me at least two other human heroes where Retreat can change a board like that. And...

So for 4cc a shadow hero gets to use their SE ability two turns in a row? I thought the idea behind raising the cost of SE abilities and making them more of a swing was to balance things out more for...

And Logan, and Ter Adun, etc. etc....

I disagree. Again, there isn't room in a deck for human heroes to blindly run Sunlight and for Priests to run either or both, on the off chance that you face...

I've noticed that Shadow Font isn't on the list of changes. Why not? That card desperately needs an errata. I don't mind that it adds SE to a hero, but either the cost needs to go up or the amount of...

Oh I know who the trolls are and who to ignore. Giskard and I go way back. The only reason I mention it is because there are people that I play with and enjoy playing the game with and it was easier...

Thanks to the magic of the Interwebz, AnAdolt, and Kyle I have now assumed my primary gaming tag ThEReApR. Stunnah will be my deck tester name. Now carry on about your normal business people.

I think everyone has glazed over the simple fact that testing with the new hero abilities in conjunction with the new cards was only a few days. With the small amount of people that test the new...

Ahhhh ya got me.... you clever guy you...

not when I was there just 3 seconds ago......

So what about releasing them to the test server? or is that not going to happen?

Hero changes? What is the plan for those?

I find it hard to complain about something when the whole picture hasn't been revealed. All we know for sure so far is the hero changes, the new cards in 1.27, and a few card changes, we still have...

There is a Good Games Thread for this. Unfortunately it slipped to page 5.

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