Garbage Disposal (Amber Rain) [1.29]

** Updated for SF -V 2.880 **

Jaqui's Recent Hammer deck has inspired me to renew this deck for the latest version, so here it is!

The strategy still remains the same. Fill your opponents hand with garbage they can't use and blocking draw whilst stealing their good cards and smacking them in the face.

Current Deck (40)

1 x Amber Rain

(0 allies)

4 x Crippling Blow
3 x Shield Bash
4 x Retreat
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
2 x Nowhere To Hide
2 x Enslave the Beast
2 x Curse of the Aldmor
2 x Vision of Endia
(27 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Reserve Weapon
4 x Dimension Ripper
(12 items)

** Updated for DP - V3**

This is a variation of a deck I tried pre 40 card minimum that did not work at all. Now that decks start at 40 and their are some new allies it seems to be working OK. Still in development although it is already playing well. The concept initially came from trying to find a use for the most useless cards, and there is one card that allows it with Ambers new ability.

So here goes the DP version (V3):

Current Deck (40)

1 x Amber Rain

(0 allies)

4 x Crippling Blow
3 x Shield Bash
4 x Retreat
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
4 x Killing Spree
1 x Rejuvenating Ritual
1 x Nowhere to Hide
2 x Outwitted
(27 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Reserve Weapon
4 x Dimension Ripper
(12 items)


V2 Deck (47)
1 x Amber Rain

4 x Puwen Bloodhelm
3 x Birgitte Skullborn
3 x Blake Windrunner
4 x Tainted Oracle
(14 allies)

4 x Dual Wield
4 x Crippling Blow
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
(16 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Violet Thunderstorm
4 x Dimension Ripper
4 x Rusty Longsword
(16 items)


Original Deck (51)
1 x Amber Rain

4 x Dirk Saber
4 x Lily Rosecult
4 x Puwen Bloodhelm
4 x Birgitte Skullborn
4 x Blake Windrunner
4 x Tainted Oracle
(24 allies)

4 x Dual Wield
4 x Crippling Blow
4 x Retreat
4 x Misplaced
(16 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
2 x Violet Thunderstorm
4 x Dimension Ripper
(10 items)

As you have probably noticed is that a lot of the cards are trash. Exactly what you want your opponent to be taking from your deck when the fabric of the universe tears open and cards fall out. I started constructing this deck with Dimension Ripper, and Dual Wield. From there I filled it with cards that would not counter my own strategy when falling into the wrong hands. ie; no weapon or item destruction; no fat allies with more than 4 health; no particularly useful armour (which by the way I discovered that Violet Thunderstorm activates Dimension Rippers ability a second time if the opponent dares to use yours); no health buffing/healing- all the things that usually make warriors so great. That doesn't mean you can't use them, mirror matches give you all the good stuff a warrior needs.

The best part about playing against good decks is that you can rely on them having the good cards you need, and that is what makes this deck so fun and interesting. For this you will almost exclusively hit the hero. By letting their allies kill themselves against Dimension Rippers blade is what gives you the cards you need and hands them a pile of garbage that in some cases even stops them from drawing their own cards after a visit to the local Bazaar. Make sure you change the view and watch the top card of your deck fly off so you know which allies to best retreat.

Why no Blood Frenzy you ask? Of course the deck started with this card, but I quickly found it was very counter productive and this deck needs one cool headed Amber. There is enough draw to get you a Dimension Ripper without Blood Frenzy thanks to Tainted Oracle or Bazaar if absolutely necessary, and with it you eventually get card blocked and you actually need the HP it takes so that you can kill allies defensively rather than offensively. Bazaar actually works much better by helping prevent them from drawing their own cards later on and can draw item destruction away from Dimension ripper occasionally, but should not be cast turn 2 ever. By not casting BF (or even Bazaar) immediately you now have turn 2 to cast one of your 12 2 cost (or less) allies in the deck and if you did not draw a Dimension Ripper you will only need early board control until you do. I may end up putting Blood Frenzy back in just in case the opponent wants to try and use it to see how little it helps.

But what about Bad Santa? It's true that this red and white nightmare can fill your opponent's hand to prevent them from drawing your cards while you still draw theirs, but why worry when you can fill their stockings with rotting left-overs and unwrap all their expensive presents? Not having Bad Santa also prevents them from using your own cards against you for the same reason. They have to stock their own for that.


The key to being able to include Bad Santa is Rain Delay to prevent too much card block by your opponent if they get yours. So it can work well enough. Unlike most DR decks however, you want to exchange cards before you cast it so they get more of your cards then their own. Then you can cast other cards to free up your hand for retaliation against Amber.

It's a lot more refined now from the original and I'm looking forward to adapting it to 1.3

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Originally Posted by Keaven

I discovered that Violet Thunderstorm activates Dimension Rippers ability a second time if the opponent dares to use yours

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Not sure what i think of this deck but it seems fun. That VT mechanic, which i got to assume is unintentional... is pretty dirty. Why 51 cards, seems pretty ally heavy, unless the point is to make sure you have lots of cards to give them?

Fun to play...but in my deck. I minus all the crippling blows...And retreat...Just wack and wait for good cards to come. Dual Weild + DR is a killer...

This seems pretty hilarious, I might have to give it a spin sometime and see how it plays. I would definitely drop the deck down to 40 though so your odds of drawing your first ripper is improved. What are your thoughts on having 4 misplaced in your deck? to max opponents hand out so they can't steal from your deck?

-4 crippling blows and retreats (Why let enemy get break ya weapons and retreat ya allies (if any) )
Whole point is to give garbage to opponent. So I added Campfire and honor the dead.

Thatz my version. : )

I guess you are not going to fight DC ? )))) with this....
Fun to plat though.....:cool:

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Originally Posted by Natshikrak

-4 crippling blows and retreats (Why let enemy get break ya weapons and retreat ya allies (if any) )
Whole point is to give garbage to opponent. So I added Campfire and honor the dead.

Thatz my version. : )

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Yea but... you could still pull that garbage rather than pull a DR at all if you only have 4 of them in a 50+ card deck... granted this isn't a serious deck. An amber DR deck could be made more effectively if you wanted to.

Current Deck (45)
1 x Amber Rain

4 x Lily Rosecult
4 x Puwen Bloodhelm
4 x Birgitte Skullborn
4 x Blake Windrunner
4 x Tainted Oracle
(20 allies)

4 x Dual Wield
4 x Crippling Blow
4 x Retreat
4 x Bazaar
(16 abilities)

4 x Violet Thunderstorm
4 x Dimension Ripper
(8 items)

I watched the replays of someone who played the deck and they didn't really get the concept. ie never play Bazaar turn 2. You need board control so play your weenies. Hold your Bazaar until turn 3/4 for emergencies if you failed controlling the board or didn't draw a DR or TO. Later Bazaar can be played to help start blocking their draw and filling their hand with your cards.

This deck forces your opponent to change their strategy a lot. This is your advantage, especially if you have good overall deck experience. This is not a beginners deck because it has beginner cards.

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Originally Posted by Armoek

This seems pretty hilarious, I might have to give it a spin sometime and see how it plays. I would definitely drop the deck down to 40 though so your odds of drawing your first ripper is improved. What are your thoughts on having 4 misplaced in your deck? to max opponents hand out so they can't steal from your deck?

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I am still working on numbers, was getting pretty lucky it seems with my first 20 or so matches. I started at maximum hand size and am reducing already.

The Misplaced were for reducing my hand size when needed as well as increasing the opponents to block them from drawing their own cards- remember you want to fill their hand with your junk, not vice versa with this strategy. It worked well enough, but I'm finding that the 4 cost or less abilities/items I'm getting are useful and I don't want them to have them back, so I have removed this card.

Draw can be really heavy and I would definitely keep the deck above 40 even if it was filled out a bit more with Bad Santa's and Blood Frenzy if your worried about drawing a DR, but I still think TO is good enough. The match can end up drawing every card and you don't want to be short in the end.

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Originally Posted by Natshikrak

-4 crippling blows and retreats (Why let enemy get break ya weapons and retreat ya allies (if any) )
Whole point is to give garbage to opponent. So I added Campfire and honor the dead.

Thatz my version. : )

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There are a few reasons for keeping the retreats. It can be useful to send up their fatties and makes them wary of what to summon. If they use a stolen one they are usually trying to return their own ally which fattens their hand further and is often a fattie with high resource cost that cannot be summoned in the same turn.

Crippling Blow is for early lock down in combo with weenies. If they want to use them against me, better than another/bigger ally. My damage comes from Dimension Ripper.

I did also try to add Campfire stories to perhaps get out DR earlier if needed, but didn't like it. Summoning weenies for early board control and waiting still works better. You may not realise just how trash Honor The Dead is Natshikrak. I also found a glitch that does not allow you to cast a stolen version of this card. Period. So they cannot even use it if they wanted to. I still left it out because it would only help when it's too late or you already have a Dimension Ripper out or in your graveyard. I'm reconsidering Bad Santa.

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Originally Posted by Zegromanter

I guess you are not going to fight DC ? )))) with this....
Fun to plat though.....:cool:

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Actually so far it has faired quite well against Darkclaw. Of course it can struggle a little if they manage to play What Big Teeth and Speedstrike T3 & T4 then get out every Shadow Font straight after, but even now with my deck changes the Violet Thunderstorm is good enough to hold out long enough usually with Lily.

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Originally Posted by Junk Style

Not sure what i think of this deck but it seems fun. That VT mechanic, which i got to assume is unintentional... is pretty dirty. Why 51 cards, seems pretty ally heavy, unless the point is to make sure you have lots of cards to give them?

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Actually the VT mechanic also applies to Berserkers Edge given it has the same activation trigger...

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Originally Posted by Keaven

Actually the VT mechanic also applies to Berserkers Edge given it has the same activation trigger...

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BE is ridiculously bugged.

Finally someone post this amber strategy that I playing and yes I'm selfish not to share LOL (cos I'm a fish
O.o)
my version has a few difference, will try the violet storm, I didn't know that.
I did put in blood frenzy cos i use rain of delay with less allies, and don't use the bloody frenzy that I put in.
why put in when I don't use? cos its a DOT trap for the enemy haha, with bazaar and santa and oracle and his own draw engine he will have a handful, blood frenzy is a trap for him to use it.

I don't use duel wield, its bonus do not stack with amber ability

This deck is really fun against mages or have a high advantage against them cos you will get their nukes lol
Against DC? I once got lone wolf and speed strike, needless to say I let him taste him own medicine the ripper way XD

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Originally Posted by Hunkfish

Finally someone post this amber strategy that I playing and yes I'm selfish not to share LOL (cos I'm a fish
O.o)
my version has a few difference, will try the violet storm, I didn't know that.
I did put in blood frenzy cos i use rain of delay with less allies, and don't use the bloody frenzy that I put in.
why put in when I don't use? cos its a DOT trap for the enemy haha, with bazaar and santa and oracle and his own draw engine he will have a handful, blood frenzy is a trap for him to use it.

I don't use duel wield, its bonus do not stack with amber ability

This deck is really fun against mages or have a high advantage against them cos you will get their nukes lol
Against DC? I once got lone wolf and speed strike, needless to say I let him taste him own medicine the ripper way XD

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When you destroy Duel Wield to dig a Dimension Ripper out of your graveyard it is now a 3 attack weapon which does stack with Amber's ability for a total of 5 attack. If you cast another Dual Wield while it's out it doesn't stack is all. It's a much better way to use DR, particularly as it one shots any un-buffed Shadow ally.

hey a "stripper" and you use violet thunderstorm... yay :)

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn0

hey a "stripper" and you use violet thunderstorm... yay :)

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Is there a significance I am missing? :)

I am taking a leaf out of your book Hunkfish and trying another version at the moment:

Concept Testing (45):

1 x Amber Rain

4 x Puwen Bloodhelm
3 x Birgitte Skullborn
3 x Blake Windrunner
4 x Tainted Oracle
(14 allies)

4 x Dual Wield
4 x Crippling Blow
2 x Blood Frenzy
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bazaar
4 x Bad Santa
(22 abilities)

4 x Violet Thunderstorm
4 x Dimension Ripper
(8 items)

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Originally Posted by Keaven

Is there a significance I am missing? :)

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yes there is :) i like seeing people create "stripper" decks :)

check here for all 6 of mine: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....ublished-Decks

and check the solo decks about violet thunderstorm :)

not trying to move in on your deck discussion, i really do like that you are using DR and VT.

I have made one huge oversight in card selection and a couple of other minor changes.

Update (47):

1 x Amber Rain

4 x Puwen Bloodhelm
3 x Birgitte Skullborn
3 x Blake Windrunner
4 x Tainted Oracle
(14 allies)

4 x Dual Wield
4 x Crippling Blow
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
(16 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Violet Thunderstorm
4 x Dimension Ripper
4 x Rusty Longsword
(16 items)

I can't believe I only just realised there is a card so perfectly suitable for this deck I overlooked. Rusty Longsword!

It's the only 3 cost card in the deck and is perfect for turn 3 to help board control.
If the opponent gets it it not only costs one health to use for only four (without abilities or buffs) damage, not to mention if no allies are left they will probably need to hit amber who may have VT and/or buffed DR.
Just make sure you don't waste your SE on it if you have a DR already in hand waiting to come out unless you are trying to bait item destruction or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Caitlyn0

yes there is :) i like seeing people create "stripper" decks :)

check here for all 6 of mine: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....ublished-Decks

and check the solo decks about violet thunderstorm :)

not trying to move in on your deck discussion, i really do like that you are using DR and VT.

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I see. Cheers. Thanks to the glitch VT is a feature of this deck now. And to be honest I don't think the combo with DR is OP so I like using it. You would love my Wolf's Bane (Gweneth Deck). I'll post it up sometimes. It tears shreds out of Darkclaw.

Fun to play....but very very inconsistent I guess....
What if your opponent put and armor....like Armor of Ages ))) ???

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Originally Posted by Zegromanter

Fun to play....but very very inconsistent I guess....
What if your opponent put and armor....like Armor of Ages ))) ???

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I've never lost a game due to AOA. AOA doesn't do any damage. A tough deck to play well, but don't mistake variety for inconsistency.

I want to try this deck out but I can't bring myself to spend the gold to get so many bad cards lol.

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Originally Posted by psychobabble

I want to try this deck out but I can't bring myself to spend the gold to get so many bad cards lol.

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If you don't already have every card you probably don't have the experience needed to win with this deck anyway. Better off using good cards to win and learn their weaknesses first :)

I lost a lot and ecpecialu because of AOA
When you go up in rating this strategy is more inconsistent facing strong players
I played it when i was rating 165 and it was tough.....
But i like the idea so much and i was trying to modify to make it better....lost a lot of rating ha ha

It was great to see a few of these decks and variations around after I posted it. Did anyone have any success or find a better card set to use?

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Originally Posted by Keaven

It was great to see a few of these decks and variations around after I posted it. Did anyone have any success or find a better card set to use?

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I'm working on a solo DR Amber(with the IRC guys helping me out) and it has so far been kinda decent. Not enough games to actually know anything but I haven't get stomped by anything so far.

Basically:
4 Dimension Ripper
4 Rusty Longsword
3-4 Dual Wield

I also run:
4x Rain Delay
4x Crippling Blow
4x Retreat

These are not going to be a threat to me if my opponent gets them because I run no allies(read: 0). I don't want to post the full deck as of yet because tweaks are still being made.

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Originally Posted by Airact

I'm working on a solo DR Amber(with the IRC guys helping me out) and it has so far been kinda decent. Not enough games to actually know anything but I haven't get stomped by anything so far.

Basically:
4 dimension ripper
4 Rusty Longsword
3-4 dual wield

I also run:
4x Rain Delay
4x crippling blow
4x retreat

These are not going to be a threat to me if my opponent gets them because I run no allies(read: 0). I don't want to post the full deck as of yet because tweaks are still being made.

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The first Dimension Ripper deck I tried was without allies. The problem you will face there is that the biggest threat to this style is a deck with over 50% allies so you are making it a very good chance that you will be getting mostly allies from their deck while they will be getting ally counter cards meaning you are drawing dead cards. I played a match yesterday against a DR Amber and absolutely slaughtered her because I got:

2 x Dual Wield
1 x Rampage
1 x Dimension Ripper
1 x The King's Pride (didn't even need it as I used Violet Thunderstorm for extra draw)
1 x Enrage
1 x Retreat
1 x Crippling Blow
1 x Smashing Blow
1 x Lily Rosecult
1 x War Banner (which oddly enough got Misplaced back into my hand?)
... and a few other weenies.

I didn't keep track of what she took from my deck, other than the Lily I retreated back to my hand to dig up a Dimension Ripper, but I didn't see much of it used maybe a couple of Puwen were mine.

She didn't draw any of her cards by the last few turns of the match except when using a Bad Santa because I was filling her hand with my garbage before the start of every turn, of which she had cast Blood Frenzy turn two.

The biggest problem with DR decks is that there are some very key cards you do not want your opponent to get listed below and the only way to prevent it every match is to exclude them:

Enrage
Rampage
The King's Pride
Snow Sapphire
Smashing Blow
Bad Santa
several allies such as Armored Sandworm (even if they can be retreated it's situational)

My favourite card in this deck is Violet Thunderstorm for sure, and if I had known about the glitch before making it I would have named the deck Shit-storm. Rather than using health buffs this armour helps you take defensive kills while reducing damage and stockpiling their cards. If they happened to get one of yours they will use it to limit hero damage (and wasting 6 resources that could have been used to empty their hand preventing card block) to which you then trade two cards per strike with DR. Alternatively, they may be stupid enough to use one of your DR and hit you with Violet thunderstorm attached. Hitting a Hero with Violet Thunderstorm and DR equipped with your DR will trade 3 cards.

Oh wow, I just noticed a change in Misplaced sending the item back into it's "controller's" hand now and not the owner's hand. Might have to put this back into my deck again.

The latest version is renamed Recycling Centre.

** Updated for DP - V3**

So here goes the DP version (V3):

Current Deck (40)

1 x Amber Rain

(0 allies)

4 x Crippling Blow
3 x Shield Bash
4 x Retreat
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
4 x Killing Spree
1 x Rejuvenating Ritual
1 x Nowhere to Hide
2 x Outwitted
(27 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Reserve Weapon
4 x Dimension Ripper
(12 items)

I am having some success with this build currently:

1 x Amber Rain

4 x Marshland Sentinel
(4 allies)

4 x Crippling Blow
4 x Retreat
3 x Special Delivery
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
1 x Rejuvenating Ritual
1 x Nowhere to Hide
2 x Outwitted
(23 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Reserve Weapon
4 x Dimension Ripper
(12 items)

Jaqui's Recent Hammer deck has inspired me to renew this deck for the latest version, so here it is!

The strategy still remains the same. Fill your opponents hand with garbage they can't use and blocking draw whilst stealing their good cards and smacking them in the face. (OP Updated)

1 x Amber Rain

(0 allies)

4 x Crippling Blow
3 x Shield Bash
4 x Retreat
4 x Rain Delay
4 x Bad Santa
2 x Nowhere To Hide
2 x Enslave the Beast
2 x Curse of the Aldmor
2 x Vision of Endia
(27 abilities)

4 x Bazaar
4 x Reserve Weapon
4 x Dimension Ripper
(12 items)