Shadow Era FACTS while you're waiting!

Adding to the fact machine

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Originally Posted by 4Ak

Gondorian (on official Wulven thread after revealing SF cards):

"Cards with a sustain cost show a cost that will be automatically paid at the end of their controller's turn. A 1HP cost means your hero takes 1 damage at the end of your turn.

If the cost can't be paid, the card with sustain is destroyed/killed. In the case of a 1HP cost, that's always going to be payable (and it might kill your hero). A 1cc cost means you need to leave a resource unspent at the end of your turn to pay it or the card with sustain goes away."

Mojumbo:

"The 1 health sustain cost on Confluence of Fate is a mandatory cost. It deals irreducible damage in the same way that mill damage you take from having an empty deck is irreducible. As such, Guardian of Unaxio will be unable to prevent the sustain cost damage with his ability."

...no bugs here, let's move on

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Originally Posted by Gondorian

Garth defended first, but it's still an attack. And the ally attacked first (to trigger the combat to start) and then got disabled. In terms of attacking, disabled only prevents you starting that attack.

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Originally Posted by tafkad

... disabled prevents you from attacking but becoming disabled during the attack before you deal damage will not stop you from carrying out the full attack...

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*applicable only in the situation a defender freezes/disables the attacker. In a normal situation, if an ally is frozen/disabled during combat the defender can no longer attack.

Difference between active and passive abilities

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Originally Posted by Gondorian

Anything that isn't activated by the player explicitly - by clicking the card and choosing ABILITY - is considered passive because it works without being activated (so it is indeed non-active). All of the activated abilities always have a cost (even if 0 resources) to make clear it's an optional future action you can do while it is in play.

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Example, using "Ground Shift"

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Originally Posted by Demnchi

Disable and Poison are Negative Effects and aren't considered passives, so they would be unaffected by Groundshift. The Hunter Ally cost reduction is an active effect sourced to Skervox himself, which Groundshift does not interact with since it only interacts with allies. Unless I'm forgetting someone, the only heroes whos abilities would be affected by Groundshift are Tala (Protector) and Moonstalker (Stealth). Even still, that's only because the hero gave the ally itself the passive.

A good rule of thumb(s) for what is and isn't a passive would be something like this:

1. A Keyword on an ally that is not a negative effect (eg. Protector, Stealth, Hidden, Defender, and Haste are all passives)
2. Any ability that comes from an ally that does not have a Resource or Shadow Energy cost (eg. Aldon's +1 attack buff is a Passive, while Marshland Sentinal's 0-attack ability is an Activated ability)

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priest 'forgivness' ability

When you play Forgiveness it adds a "blank card" to the top of your resource pile that is treated as a resource. In your scenario, when you play Forgiveness on turn 4 it pull the "blank card" out of your resource pile and attempts to add it to your hand. However, since you can't have a blank card in your hand it is removed from the game instead. As such, you wont get a card when you attempt to retrieve a blank resource with Forgiveness.

great idea

poisoned / ablaze damage sourced to an ally has its source moved to the hero if that ally leaves play

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Originally Posted by trevorJacobs

poisoned / ablaze damage sourced to an ally has its source moved to the hero if that ally leaves play

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Interesting fact. Can you provide an example of a situation that this logic has an affect on the game.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ShrapnelFox

Interesting fact. Can you provide an example of a situation that this logic has an affect on the game.

Cheers

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Yes - happened to me once. Venomflame Archer set Molted Destroyer on fire, and then Venomflame Archer died. When MD took damage, my hero took the retaliation damage! I raised as a question in the forum here, but it turns out that this is correct behaviour

That thread actually has a few things that i proposed to add to the facts:
- killing counts as dealing damage (e.g. decoy trap stops Mind Control)
- your hero is considered the source of damage if it's not an ally (e.g. if it is artifact damage, it is still considered to be from the hero)
- only one trap can go off at a time (e.g. Evil Ascendent cannot trigger multiple Decoy Traps if there is more than one ally out)
- item effects stop if the card leaves play (e.g. Gold-Laced Shield's last use does nothing)
- DMT/FT damage to CoI doesn't kill him
- can't attach 2x same attachment
- Shard of Power health cap applies AFTER other modifiers etc. (e.g. interaction with Hunter's Gambit)
- Shriek of Vengance eats a used resource rather than an un-used one
- your ally doesn't have to be ready to attack (e.g. Bone Sabre)
- what happens if you try to put a card into a full hand? (e.g. Darkwood Wraith)
- your ally will still attack if, after starting the attack, it is reduced to 0 attack (e.g. Consuming Fear)

There's now also the one about how allies can steal deal the damage in combat even if they become frozenduring the combat here

Allies cannot come back from zero health (e.g. if Ogloth and another ally are killed by Static Shock, Ogloth cannot get 1HP back from ally death)

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Originally Posted by trevorJacobs

That thread actually has a few things that i proposed to add to the facts:
- killing counts as dealing damage (e.g. decoy trap stops Mind Control)
- your hero is considered the source of damage if it's not an ally (e.g. if it is artifact damage, it is still considered to be from the hero)
- only one trap can go off at a time (e.g. Evil Ascendent cannot trigger multiple Decoy Traps if there is more than one ally out)
- item effects stop if the card leaves play (e.g. Gold-Laced Shield's last use does nothing)
- DMT/FT damage to CoI doesn't kill him
- can't attach 2x same attachment
- Shard of Power health cap applies AFTER other modifiers etc. (e.g. interaction with Hunter's Gambit)
- Shriek of Vengance eats a used resource rather than an un-used one
- your ally doesn't have to be ready to attack (e.g. Bone Sabre)
- what happens if you try to put a card into a full hand? (e.g. Darkwood Wraith)
- your ally will still attack if, after starting the attack, it is reduced to 0 attack (e.g. Consuming Fear)

There's now also the one about how allies can steal deal the damage in combat even if they become frozenduring the combat here

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Excellent contribution Trevor!
Lots of brief and concise facts :D

Scenario:

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Originally Posted by Alforteg

The Arthyle´s Pass: Dead Man´s Breac was active, The card that gives meek to allies the turn they are summoned, but someone attacked my hero with an ally, the turn it was summoned.

This is what hapened: My opponent summoned "Soulbound Armor" and then, he activated the skill in the same turn, the skill to convert it in a readied ally, and then he put a Life Infusion Attachment and he attacked my hero, all in the same turn. I think it is a bug. Or not???

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Ruling:

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Originally Posted by Gondorian

OK, so this is not clear cut, but my ruling (which matches how the game behaves) is that it only refers to allies that were summoned that turn and it was not summoned as an ally. In other words, an ally gets meek for the rest of the turn at the point it is summoned.

Related ruling: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....-Will-to-Fight

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ally getting frozen after starting an attack does not stop/cancel the attack or stop ability to deal damage (counter-intuitively)

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Originally Posted by ShrapnelFox

priest 'forgivness' ability

When you play Forgiveness it adds a "blank card" to the top of your resource pile that is treated as a resource. In your scenario, when you play Forgiveness on turn 4 it pull the "blank card" out of your resource pile and attempts to add it to your hand. However, since you can't have a blank card in your hand it is removed from the game instead. As such, you wont get a card when you attempt to retrieve a blank resource with Forgiveness.

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Also if you use last 2 resouces on Forgiveness it adds unused resouce.

Have a sledgehammer with 3 durability out, which is used to attack Rust Weevil, which dies.

Sledgehammer should have lost 1 durability from swing, and another from Rust Weevilability, putting it at 1 durability? (It only lost 1).

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Originally Posted by Gondorian

1. Rust Weevil takes combat damage and now Sledgehammer is due to lose 1 additional durability at the point it loses the usual 1 (to make 2 lost in total).
2. Rust Weevil is killed and exiled. (His "on killed" ability would blow up Sledgehammer here except Sledgehammer can't be destroyed in this way.)
3. Sledgehammer loses 1 durability from being used but Rust Weevil is no longer in play to give the additional 1 durability loss so only 1 durability is used up.

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Could also be the exile effect doesn't count as killing. Similar to night owl and snare trap.


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Lot's of good ones - I just suggest keeping them short and more generic - people will only have a few seconds to read them on their phones ...