Crown 2016 presented by Team Juggernauts and Wulven

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Originally Posted by Holy Punisher

Hey Starval, I'd like to ask a clarification for the ties.
In OP it says: "The Top 3 Qualify for the 2016 WC Grand Finals (Bucholz system to break ties, tie breakers played at end if necessary with the last class remaining)"

So my understanding is that ranking goes by this order:
1) Score (number of games won +1 per match)
2) Buchholz
3) Nothing else! --> Match with last class

Is the points of difference completely irrelevant?
Of course they determine the pairings now, but in the final standing I assume it doesn't matter if you won all games 3-0 or 3-2, right?

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Oddly based off the OP you are better off winning everything 3-2.

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Originally Posted by qaz92zaq

Oddly based off the OP you are better off winning everything 3-2.

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Oh you are right! Because opponent gets score points even if they don't win the round.

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Praxxix>Zhanna
Zaladar>Jericho

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Baduruu > darkclaw
Baduruu > darkclaw
Ythan < bloodfang
Ythan > bloodfang

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Originally Posted by Holy Punisher

Hey Starval, I'd like to ask a clarification for the ties.
In OP it says: "The Top 3 Qualify for the 2016 WC Grand Finals (Bucholz system to break ties, tie breakers played at end if necessary with the last class remaining)"

So my understanding is that ranking goes by this order:
1) Score (number of games won +1 per match)
2) Buchholz
3) Nothing else! --> Match with last class

Is the points of difference completely irrelevant?
Of course they determine the pairings now, but in the final standing I assume it doesn't matter if you won all games 3-0 or 3-2, right?

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I'll check out the OP. Maybe I didn't specify but ranks are sorted as such:

1 - Your overall score
2 - Head to head: TB, checks to see if you had beaten the opp you are tied with
3 - Strength of victory: Points Difference, so 3-0s give you a better points difference than 3-2
4 - Strength of schedule: Bucholz, how strong your opps were

So ideally, you want to win all your rounds 3-0 and want the opps you played to do as good as possible after that.

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Originally Posted by starval

I'll check out the OP. Maybe I didn't specify but ranks are sorted as such:

1 - Your overall score
2 - Head to head: TB, checks to see if you had beaten the opp you are tied with
3 - Strength of victory: Points Difference, so 3-0s give you a better points difference than 3-2
4 - Strength of schedule: Bucholz, how strong your opps were

So ideally, you want to win all your rounds 3-0 and want the opps you played to do as good as possible after that.

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Thanks for the answer. However, I am not happy that we know this just now and after I asked (I just got "suspicious" from other players discussion). The OP didn't say anything like that so I could easily assume that points of difference doesn't count so I could play "chilled" and get a 3-2 win the same as having a 3-0. (ever more after qazzaq pointed out the former was actually favorable). I don't like to whine but because I am one of the players with the lowest score difference, I find this a bit unfair to not be clear since the beginning. I hope it will not matter at the end but I just say my concerns in advance of the final standings.

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Originally Posted by Holy Punisher

Thanks for the answer. However, I am not happy that we know this just now and after I asked (I just got "suspicious" from other players discussion). The OP didn't say anything like that so I could easily assume that points of difference doesn't count so I could play "chilled" and get a 3-2 win the same as having a 3-0. (ever more after qazzaq pointed out the former was actually favorable). I don't like to whine but because I am one of the players with the lowest score difference, I find this a bit unfair to not be clear since the beginning. I hope it will not matter at the end but I just say my concerns in advance of the final standings.

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We actually did discuss it in the Crown TG at the beginning of the turney. And if those tiebreakers didn't count, they wouldn't have been in challonge standings. Again, perhaps we should've updated the OP after the talks in TG.

Not to be rude, but it's a pretty high stakes tournement. Why would you play less than your best assuming slightly more lenient tie breakers will be your safety net?

@starval I didn't see the TG chat because I get thousands of messages per day and since this is the official sign up and post the results page, it should definitely be updated.

@streetsahead what if I played at my best and did the score on purpose because I am that good? :P

The point is that because it is a high stakes tournament the rules are rules and should be clear to everyone and stated from the beginning. Anyways I'll stop here because I don't want to start a dispute. From now on I'll follow the latest TO rules as mentioned above.

BT Caparod 3 - 2 Pasdev
Loest > Praxis
Loest > Praxis
Eladwen < Zaladar
Eladwen < Zaladar
He conceded the last one.