Multiplayer exploit fixes

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Originally Posted by AnAdolt

Yes, but you believe in the merit of publicizing exploits and my curtness, which really was too ambiguous, was implying that Kyle's current policy is against doing that and you could get banned depending on severity.

EDIT: To clarify, "end of story" was me basically saying, Kyle's word is final.

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I think we've been in agreement the whole time...

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Originally Posted by AnAdolt

Yes, but you believe in the merit of publicizing exploits and my curtness, which really was too ambiguous, was implying that Kyle's current policy is against doing that and you could get banned depending on severity.

EDIT: To clarify, "end of story" was me basically saying, Kyle's word is final.

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Yes, it's final on what is done here. One should not publish and discuss exploits here.

It's not final on what ought to be done, and discussion of the merits of both ways were what was occurring, so there was no end of story as such.

Not publicising exploits is preferable to some idiotic notion of "it will get fixed faster if people cheat".

If you want I can publish a detailed 'how to' guide of how to alter the cards you play as sent to the server, read your opponents hands, and guarantee sync issues and opponent defeats. I can post it off-site so that it can't be removed and show how to do it with easily downloadable tools. Then everyone can cheat and it will "get fixed faster" because the game will be completely ruined until the fix comes in. Right?

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Originally Posted by Calmdown

Not publicising exploits is preferable to some idiotic notion of "it will get fixed faster if people cheat".

If you want I can publish a detailed 'how to' guide of how to alter the cards you play as sent to the server, read your opponents hands, and guarantee sync issues and opponent defeats. I can post it off-site so that it can't be removed and show how to do it with easily downloadable tools. Then everyone can cheat and it will "get fixed faster" because the game will be completely ruined until the fix comes in. Right?

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This post has enough detail for people to do it. Its pretty easy to cheat in this game. Especially because everythign is unencrypted.

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Originally Posted by N3rd4Christ

This post has enough detail for people to do it. Its pretty easy to cheat in this game. Especially because everythign is unencrypted.

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Before anyone says im cheating, because it says its easy to cheat in this game, i am not. otherwise i woudl ahve not lost 40+ rating so far =P

HTTPS is a must. Hope Unity3D provides that.

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Originally Posted by Calmdown

Not publicising exploits is preferable to some idiotic notion of "it will get fixed faster if people cheat".

If you want I can publish a detailed 'how to' guide of how to alter the cards you play as sent to the server, read your opponents hands, and guarantee sync issues and opponent defeats. I can post it off-site so that it can't be removed and show how to do it with easily downloadable tools. Then everyone can cheat and it will "get fixed faster" because the game will be completely ruined until the fix comes in. Right?

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If it's a choice of everyone exploiting it and getting it fixed within a week (as with this thread) or having a few exploit it and the devs ignore it for months, I'd choose the former.

Naturally it getting fixed fast with few knowing would be the ideal situation, but if it makes something get fixed that others might otherwise exploit forever, I'd rather it be out in the open, yes.

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Naturally it getting fixed fast with few knowing would be the ideal situation, but if it makes something get fixed that others might otherwise exploit forever, I'd rather it be out in the open, yes.

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It already was 'out in the open' since Kyle was deleting the threads and aware of the bug. Not sure why you think some forced 'freedom of speech' ideal would make things better and it's not hard to see how it could make things worse.

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Originally Posted by arebelspy

If it's a choice of everyone exploiting it and getting it fixed within a week (as with this thread) or having a few exploit it and the devs ignore it for months, I'd choose the former.

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Good job that you're not the forum admin then :)

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Originally Posted by Kadun

For posterity, as of 2011.03.31 this is the top 20:
1 Dash2Death 566
2 Icenova 549
3 arebelspy 539
4 Phoenix81 534
5 Royal 529
6 Seongjae 520
7 Noreen 519
8 timmy105 518
9 bombazza 513
10 Mauro231 512
11 PFC 508
12 Ale4g 508
13 Legendary 502
14 Takamachi 498
15 leoho1 497
16 Cannabis Kid 495
17 InDaHole 495
18 Draco 490
19 OIZI 486
20 Blaz3r 485

I've noticed that the bottom of the top 20 has already dropped 10 rating points. We can keep this here and compare it weekly to see who's active and who's not.

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Here's the current list after almost(minus a few hours) a week:

1 Dash2Death 573
2 Icenova 549
3 Royal 529
4 arebelspy 525
5 Seongjae 521
6 Noreen 519
7 Mauro231 512
8 Phoenix81 510
9 timmy105 504
10 PFC 504
11 bombazza 503
12 Ale4g 501
13 Takamachi 495
14 Draco 490
15 OIZI 486
16 dal 484
17 leoho1 483
18 Legendary 482
19 supersaiyansick 481
20 Gaga Gravebone 481

Gained: 3 people
No change: 6 people
Dropped: 11 people

I'll give it one more week before I fully make up my mind but I get the feeling it's not going to get any better.

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Originally Posted by AnAdolt

Gained: 3 people
No change: 6 people
Dropped: 11 people

I'll give it one more week before I fully make up my mind but I get the feeling it's not going to get any better.

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How is that not getting better? Most are dropping, as would be expected with the super rating inflation. A few are rising (though there have been Qs about a few people still manipulating things). A few are not playing, and Kyle said he may well implement rating decay.

Everything seems as it should be? Ratings sorting themselves out?

What am i missing?