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    Subdue next to ALR

    Sd Fristar vs A1 Sevenlions
    Subdue did not subtract 1att from opponent ally next to it with alr.

    Ally 3/3
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    -1 subdue adj
    Should be 5 on his turn.
    Picture shows its still at six

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    If ally is immune to enemy attachments due to alr, why should he lose 1 attack from an attachment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Mann View Post
    If ally is immune to enemy attachments due to alr, why should he lose 1 attack from an attachment?
    I had subdue on the adj ally. It would not be immune from it but was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fristar View Post
    I had subdue on the adj ally. It would not be immune from it but was.
    I just watched the match...that Night Owl had subdue on it and the ally next to him had subdue. The ALR placed on the NO made him immune to both his subdue and the attack reduction from the subdued ally next to him (as he became immune to the effects from enemy attachments which makes him immune to both subdue).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Mann View Post
    I just watched the match...that Night Owl had subdue on it and the ally next to him had subdue. The ALR placed on the NO made him immune to both his subdue and the attack reduction from the subdued ally next to him (as he became immune to the effects from enemy attachments which makes him immune to both subdue).
    If u say so

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    It has always been my understanding that A Legend Rises gives the ally (to whom it is attached) immunity from the effects of attachments placed on that ally only.

    ALR has never dispelled the consequences of attachments placed upon an other ally. If your opponent placed Extra Sharp on an ally and struck with extra attack, the extra damage would not be discounted due to your ally's ALR.

    If Subdue is obviated by A Legend Rises attached to an adjacent ally, it must be fully explained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a player View Post
    It has always been my understanding that A Legend Rises gives the ally (to whom it is attached) immunity from the effects of attachments placed on that ally only.

    ALR has never dispelled the consequences of attachments placed upon an other ally. If your opponent placed Extra Sharp on an ally and struck with extra attack, the extra damage would not be discounted due to your ally's ALR.

    If Subdue is obviated by A Legend Rises attached to an adjacent ally, it must be fully explained.
    Maybe I spoke too soon...now I'm not sure (we've never had the mechanic where an attachment effects an adjacent ally, but I would imagine the ally with ALR is immune to the enemy attachment meaning he doesn't get the -1 attack)...either way I HATE subdue...LOL (I've had to completely modify many cards in my deck just to be able to handle this one card)
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    I think Shadow Mann is right here. For me it looks the same as the Turncoat case answered here: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....A-Legend-Rises
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    Quote Originally Posted by BP Holy Punisher View Post
    I think Shadow Mann is right here. For me it looks the same as the Turncoat case answered here: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....A-Legend-Rises
    Yes. This is working correctly. It is Turncoat that has a bug which is fixed in 3.61.

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    How is A Legend Rises supposed to interact with an opponent's use of attachments?

    What if my opponent attaches Into the Forest to their hero, but I have ALR on my ally? Can my ally still attack their hero?

    Does Aimed Shot do extra damage to an ally with ALR, or is the ally 'immune from enemy attachments'?

    How does the logic work so that we know when to consider if something has a quality that an ally should be immune to?
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