eternal troll

[blackphantasm]

You can just attack him every turn to exhaust him until you can get enough firepower to hit him twice. Honestly though, there are countless ways for each class to deal with him. Plus, if he's your opponen't desired T3 drop, then you can combo your T2, T3 drop/ability and your hero ability (if you do), and it will just be a drain of resource for your opponent.

[qaz92zaq]

They are easy to take care of man.
Cripple, Mind Control etc, will finish them with one card. Eternal Troll can avoid all of it and come back next turn. Way different

Of course they get the bonus of being less susceptible to allies, which are more common than control cards in most decks.

Side note CB still works on troll against human.

I kind of also feel people would ack more tools to deal with him if he were game breaking. Morbid Acolyte is a good card yet people still prefer gargoyle most of the time. Groundshift has apparently gone out of fashion, and the decks that pack LD now are the same ones that tended to do so before.

I am not saying the fact that there are to old to deal with him make him not OP. If people were forced to tech against him I'd say the opposite actually. However, people have strong anti-troll tools, which also have many other uses and still don't pack them. It does not appear to be on their list of top concerns.

[The MiddleAgedNerd]

I pack a great anti troll tool. In fact it won me my last match and i wpuld have lost. Its called soul seeker. Troll is 12 hp for me. Ibkeep him alive. Its glorious.

[blackphantasm]

You can just attack him every turn to exhaust him until you can get enough firepower to hit him twice. Honestly though, there are countless ways for each class to deal with him. Plus, if he's your opponen't desired T3 drop, then you can combo your T2, T3 drop/ability and your hero ability (if you do), and it will just be a drain of resource for your opponent.

This.

If Troll was OP, people would heavily tech against him. But people are barely changing anything with their decks, but they can still beat Troll.

[mindy]

this is not how to define op. you must look at what it costs and all the benefits you get from it. right now it does not cost enough to be the way it is.

[Sisyphos]

this is not how to define op. you must look at what it costs and all the benefits you get from it. right now it does not cost enough to be the way it is.

If there really is a problem with troll's overall stats compared to other 3-drops, it would be nice to be provided with an actual analysis instead of mere claims.

It is a weak T3 ally imo. Even going first and dropping it on an empty board, Sabreen or Krygon can instantly stun it, leading to a tempo stallmate that benefits the 2nd going player. Going 2nd yourself, there's always the risk of 2 enemy allies (or 1 + a weapon) just removing Troll for no retaliation damage, which again is weaker than most 3-drops. About on par with maybe Deathbone (one soaks up 2-3 more damage, the other deals 2 retaliation dmg; a good 3-drop would do both these things).

That it has to be killed more than once is almost as much of a downside (Soul Seeker, IGG, eternal Embers of the Just in your face, etc.)

Troll shines vs opponents who have given up on the board and just wanna rely on weapons and/or board wipes. I don't see anything wrong with that. Rush mages can't clear everything with Nova after going for face as much as possible. Priest can't rely on Tidal Wave alone anymore. Ignoring allies with your weapons leads to more lost durability. But these moves still work, they just need to be made with greater awareness of the opponent's moves and if all else fails, Yahari provides everybody with a reasonable counter, i.e. one that's not to narrow to be used in other match-ups.

[The MiddleAgedNerd]

Tell you what. This thread has more durability than troll sandworm and fort wisp combined.

[blackphantasm]

Tell you what. This thread has more durability than troll sandworm and fort wisp combined.

Many things can instakill it. Maybe we should do that.

[The MiddleAgedNerd]

Many things can instakill it. Maybe we should do that.

Should we groundshift this thread. Or shocking grasp it

[trevorJacobs]

Looks like this thread died. But not twice in a day. So now it's alive again!