Blood Frenzy against Eladwen - to play or not to play

[doghouse]

That is the question. Is it better to get cards and more chance of getting an Enrage, at the expense of potentially helping Eladwen kill you?

[A1 Otto7]

Both enrage and rampage are worth playing since u wanna make her run out of fuel.all these ONLY if u have easy board control.if playing a BF means she gets the chance to early board control that in any other case she wouldnt and makes u spend 2-3 turns to get back then it is definately a NO

[Hatts]

It depends on what draw the eladwen is carrying. If you see them play a research or tainted oracle, you should play BF to keep up (or ahead) in draw.

If the eladwen is using bazaar & bad santa, you can do without, they will provide you with enough cards.

Like Otto said, don't give up board control to play it. Wait for the eladwen to play a draw card first, then react accordingly.

[kentuequi]

Or just, try the next five game without BF, and five other games with BF, you will be able to have your own conclusion.

Of course what Hatts said is true, but when you're T2 and nothing else than BF in hand, and no way to know what your opponent will run, what to do ? sac BF or cast BF, ah ah, see my first sentence, i'm actually stuck on 1.277...

[Hatts]

If you have nothing else to do on turn 2, I think its better to play it rather than sacrifice it. The extra cards will come in handy.

[Raphael Majere]

+1. Extra cards = better choices + more resources.

[FreeHansje]

+1. Extra cards = better choices + more resources.

I am amazed. You don't mention anything about the cost, namely 1 health for each (extra) card. The others here do mention the consequences. They tell us 'under such and such circumstances yes/no...' Are you saying here 'No matter what cast BF'?

EDIT: Before I get accused again of trolling, I am really curious about your stance. You are considered very knowledgable, but statements like these...

[Raphael Majere]

I don't usually spell out everything cos i like people to try it out and find things out for themselves.

Unless it needs examples or it's difficult to understand. Or it goes against the usual flow.

It's about board advantage. Imagine you draw a card, jd. Does not do much for you. Then imagine, with bf in play, you draw a jd AND retreat. That can swing games.

To strengthen the current case, if bazaar is in play, u retreat elad's jas. Jas flies back to opponent's hand, making it 6 cards. Instead of drawing 2 on his turn, he only draws one. Card advantage gained.

Another example. Bf in play. T4, Amber draws 2 on your turn. Aldon and Skullborn. Cast both on same turn, as compared to: no bf, draw only aldon.

Countless examples with amber.

Also, more cards= more resources. Aeon, KP can cause a lot of pain to elad. More resources=more combos. Ie. Aldon + kris + retreat.

Will I cast a bf if my opponent's bazaar is out? It depends.

On my deck and how it works. If I can do 2 spells a turn, yes, I may cast bf on top of bazaar. Also depends if I have bs in hand.

Card choices. Very critical. As a warrior player, i know- bf is very good. Imagine I draw 2 per turn, it helps a lot. Aldon/jas - cast the one that's better. Late game- KP or aeon? Cripple blow or retreat. Many people don't realize that this advantage is HUGE.

Many people feel that warriors are OP, they always seem to draw the cards they need. Of course. They draw 2 instead of 1, just sac the poorer choice of the 2; it's not even wasted. It becomes a resource.

Also, drawing more cards also helps u to accelerate to cards that helps you to win. BE, Kris, Aeon, KP, etc.

[Schdawn]

BF is good in vacuum, however it's another issue against Eladwen.

If Eladwen you're facing runs Bazaar and Bad Santa as draw engine,
she'll Santa-bomb you like mad, causing you to lose a lot of CA, while giving her free Poison Gas.


Better wait until she plays other slower draw engine (Research, Oracle) before playing BF.

[Raphael Majere]

Of cos, it depends. Sometimes my hand is full of reactive cards or high cc cards. Then, i may hold back bf. Also, every elad is different. Some run research instead of bazaar.