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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmdown View Post
    If only there were allies or abilities that stopped your creatures from being targeted!
    if only shadow heroes had access to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmdown View Post
    If only there were allies or abilities that stopped your creatures from being targeted!
    There's nothing worthwhile. Best I can think of is playing a shadow warrior and setting up a gargoyle turn 3, Jeweler's Dream turn 4, then minotaur and warrior training on garg during turn 5. But that is quite an elaborate play that doesn't get me anywhere if the other guy plays something simple like supernova or retreat to get at my minotaur. I could've tried the same thing with a behemoth or knight and not risk to take 2 extra damage when minotaur dies, too. What do I gain from protecting minotaurs from burn and effects over protecting other 5 drops? Compared to shadow knight, 1 extra damage per turn at the cost of 1 additional hand card. That 1 extra damage often doesn't even make a difference when I need to use the card to remove an ally that would be killed by an attack for 5 as well. All brutal has going for him currently is 1) hard retaliation, which doesn't apply when i protect him anyway and 2) he counters sandworms - compared to dozens of situations where knights and plasmas shine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calmdown View Post
    If only there were allies or abilities that stopped your creatures from being targeted!
    It is not easy to make Warrior Training work for Shadow. I did try but decided it wasn't worth the effort to protect a BM when he can still be Tidal Waved and Supernovaed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sisyphos View Post
    There's nothing worthwhile. Best I can think of is playing a shadow warrior and setting up a gargoyle turn 3, Jeweler's Dream turn 4, then minotaur and warrior training on garg during turn 5. But that is quite an elaborate play that doesn't get me anywhere if the other guy plays something simple like supernova or retreat to get at my minotaur.
    That's the exact deck I made. I even had some Valiant Defender too. It's just not worth dedicating so many slots to those cards when you could have more allies or Shrieks or Armor or Bad Santas.

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    Still awful, will see absolutely no play 200+ because of how awful he is.

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    Weren't people screaming nerf and nerf when they first saw this card? What now?
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    No one that I know of was saying nerf. BM only has a place in "fun" decks right now or maybe Portal decks, but Portal requires Mages who won't like the 2 damage. (I'd rather Portal a Shadow Knight and retrieve a dead ally, personally.)

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    It's decent for a bland beatstick, but Shadow Knight essentially packs utility in the form of card advantage. They're both the same cost so it's a no-brainer.

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    It depends if you already have Sk in your deck. My deck now has 3 Minotaurs.

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    Even if it weren't competitive (although Raphael Majere knows what he is talking about), as the game expands, top level competitive play isn't the only way to evaluate a card. Not all players have all cards, and if the trading system goes into place, that will become even more true. Furthermore, Wolven might still implement the misnamed "draft" style play. If I drew Brutal Minotaur there, I wouldn't be unhappy putting it into my deck--likewise if I could only afford a few boosters and Shadow Knight was off the charts expensive in the free-trade market.

    This is a solid card, even if Shadow Knight is better for many decks. Having a better card doesn't mean this card is bad.

    Unlike, say, Dirk who is complete crap.

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