Preview of Balance Changes for 3.62

[Harry21]

Not happy with the subdue nerf, it was such a good card for mage.

The twilight buff is great as nobody is playing them at the moment.Also i like how devs are buffing up obsolete cards like aural batterey for zal and prax, similar to how robes of mending was changed to be more of a utility card to therbin rather than only being seen in stall priests.

Stun turret is at a better place now.

Please address attach priest asap as it is completely broken.

[A1 Surprise]

I will be patiently waiting for twilight nerfs. Also make rest for the weary a cantrip at best, please.

[Offspring]

How about balancing the tribes? I've just made a summary of what we currently have (not mentioning the different power between some classes, focusing only on cards variety for now) and they are clearly unbalanced:



I'm adding also as attachment, might be easier to read.

[Offspring]

Btw, v 3.62 could be an opportunity to include some features Krugal restricted too

[Gondorian]

Being different isn't the same as being unbalanced!

It's not like sharing out candy with your children here. It's more like one wants a pony, another wants 10 Lego sets and the other wants piano lessons. The numbers alone look unbalanced, but the kids are different so it's ok.

[Gondorian]

How about balancing the tribes? I've just made a summary of what we currently have (not mentioning the different power between some classes, focusing only on cards variety for now) and they are clearly unbalanced:



I'm adding also as attachment, might be easier to read.

This is worth sending to another thread. We are talking just above these balance changes here.

[Gondorian]

Seems the Subdue change has split the community the most. As your designated developer, I can tell you we have about a week until these are set in stone, so now is a good time to say your piece and deliver evidence one way or the other for your position (or both if you want to play Devil's Advocate). Thanks for your co-operation.

[TJ dubdub]

Subdue change is good because it still gives mage a viable control card, but reduces the effectiveness as a win con. With the old one you could just drop 1 or 2 subdue early and use burn to fight off any other allies while subdue dropped the life total. Now it is still a win con, but much slower and more reasonable. It also makes it less appealing to rush mage. Obviously the damage is relevant their reason to play it, but the ability to play something without fta that is guaranteed to hit their hero and also slows down their board considerably helped to improve the odds. This reduced one of the main down sides of rush mage, they are usually much worse when playing second.

Ps: I hope this also means you are willing to look at a change to attach priest.

[Offspring]

This is worth sending to another thread. We are talking just above these balance changes here.

This thread says "Preview of Balance Changed for 3.62" so I think everything I posted here is somehow related (nerfs, buffs, new cards).
I can move it to another place if needed but still I believe its worth discussing here as well.
Undeads and Human Homunculus semt to be the best tribes for too long. Recent changes balanced a bit some other classes, but there are still classes far behing most of them.

I agree that numbers alone look unbalanced, but that's not the only (or main) issue. You cant expect a class like Yari, for example, to be that strong, versatile, and complete, as Homunculus, Undead or Wulven, for both a matter of quantity and quality.

As a fan of tribal decks I will always endorse this kind of discussion within the forum threads. So, as we are talking about the next update, thinking about new tribal cards is something valid.

[piter_00]

Any chances for changing Sorceror of Endia to destroy abilities / items on summon or to make him stay on board after using his ability like rapacious vermin (it may cost some cc or shadow energy or hp)? It would be good counter for priests and attachment vess.
Now he is almost useless.

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