Daily chest algorithm

**code cube** · 10-21-2017, 03:07 PM

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on the algorithm that controls the daily chest. Does base its card on any factors? Like the time of day? Do any factors play into its rarity, or if it's foil, etc?

**Kolodi** · 10-21-2017, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by code cube

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on the algorithm that controls the daily chest. Does base its card on any factors? Like the time of day? Do any factors play into its rarity, or if it's foil, etc?

I think it simply pick a random card from all cards pool plus some low probably of picking foiled version, and it not depends on any factor except randomness... But I may be wrong, Gondo knows for sure

**code cube** · 10-21-2017, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Kolodi

I think it simply pick a random card from all cards pool plus some low probably of picking foiled version, and it not depends on any factor except randomness... But I may be wrong, Gondo knows for sure

Cool, thanks for the input!

**code cube** · 10-21-2017, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kolodi

I think it simply pick a random card from all cards pool plus some low probably of picking foiled version, and it not depends on any factor except randomness... But I may be wrong, Gondo knows for sure

Although to be fair, most randomizing has some factors. Like in C# using the class "random" seeds the random number using the system clock.

**Kolodi** · 10-21-2017, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by code cube

Although to be fair, most randomizing has some factors. Like in C# using the class "random" seeds the random number using the system clock.

Yeah, but it's fair random, I mean in the morning it is same randomness as in the evening even if it is seeded by clock, no way to take any advantage of this...

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**code cube** · 10-21-2017, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kolodi

Yeah, but it's fair random, I mean in the morning it is same randomness as in the evening even if it is seeded by clock, no way to take any advantage of this...

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But think about it. If it *was* base on a clock of sorts, then you might have a higher chance of a rare card or whatnot if the computer uses that clock to set the chance. Super simple example: If rare card chance = time.now.hour * 0.01 | if the hour is 1 the chance is 0.01. | If the hour is 12 chance is 0.12

**Kolodi** · 10-21-2017, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by code cube

But think about it. If it *was* base on a clock of sorts, then you might have a higher chance of a rare card or whatnot if the computer uses that clock to set the chance. Super simple example: If rare card chance = time.now.hour * 0.01 | if the hour is 1 the chance is 0.01. | If the hour is 12 chance is 0.12

The algorithm is far more complex, and it uses timestamp as a seed, something like 174728824748 big number, not a simple hour.

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**code cube** · 10-21-2017, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kolodi

The algorithm is far more complex, and it uses timestamp as a seed, something like 174728824748 big number, not a simple hour.

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Yeah, I know. The whole point of that post was to give an example. But if there any factors that can be reliably measured, like time, there is a chance at finding a trick to getting rare cards a little more often.

**EdgeAce** · 10-30-2017, 02:08 PM

I just had a really fun conversation with a bunch of people about this. As an IT major I think I may have some valuable insights. So, there are some applications shadow era could get to improve its algorithms for randomness, assuming they have not already done so. There are a few truly random algorithms but they require a bit more than your standard coding methods. There are various inputs (the one I found was atmospheric noise) that can generate a truly random value, then you take the value and make some small changes in the value to act as a sort of minor form of encryption so that it no one can mess with and boom you have a truly random system. The problem with this is the lengths one would have to go through in order to obtain these values, they would most likely take up a lot of space and be very tedious to integrate.

**code cube** · 10-30-2017, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by EdgeAce

I just had a really fun conversation with a bunch of people about this. As an IT major I think I may have some valuable insights. So, there are some applications shadow era could get to improve its algorithms for randomness, assuming they have not already done so. There are a few truly random algorithms but they require a bit more than your standard coding methods. There are various inputs (the one I found was atmospheric noise) that can generate a truly random value, then you take the value and make some small changes in the value to act as a sort of minor form of encryption so that it no one can mess with and boom you have a truly random system. The problem with this is the lengths one would have to go through in order to obtain these values, they would most likely take up a lot of space and be very tedious to integrate.

All very good points! I am aware that programmers have a hard time with random algorithms (I'm a programmer myself), but anyway, I'm trying to uncover what non-random factors play into the chest.