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    Elpargo, I've read your thoughts about the support allies and I think you have to start thinking about the allies in a Wulven deck in a different way. For example, you say Infernal Gargoyle has low damage output, that's true, but you're forgetting the fact that same Infernal Gargoyle can survive a lot of beating, so the fact that he has a low damage output is mitigated by the fact that in most cases he'll survive long enough to justify his cost. On the topic of Chimera vs Keldor, again I have to say I'd choose Chimera over Keldor. For every Wulven deck I've made since 1.24 I always chose the allies by how long they can survive in most fights. This is the reason why I always put Chimera in my decks, Bad Wolf is a close second to Chimera and if I had to choose between the two of them it would be a difficult decision.
    As for Jeweler's Dream, I've recently tried it out in a Darkclaw ally deck against a Majiya burn deck. While it is certainly useful in an ally-less Wulven deck, for a Wulven ally deck it's usefulness is rather limited. You have to time it right to make the most out of it, I don't know, maybe I'm too used to What Big Teeth, because when I played Jeweler's Dream it felt like I was playing with a glass sword that could brake at the slightest touch. Strange, I know, but I guess I'm used to a weapon that has no durability :P
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    Plague, Think you have a point and I may try it however....

    You have so much ally control in Wulven decks that you just don't need to care about them attacking your allies. For example Bella almost always dies the first turn she is out but with a control deck she can last several turns.

    The specific problem my version of the deck has is that it does too little damage, so I need to buff on damage. I agree that a gargoyle is better damage in the long run. Hell even Brutalist is a great card as no one really takes care of him and he can easily do over 5 damage in one game without people realizing it.

    So I guess sometimes it's good to focus on damage sometimes it's not. If you want to focus on defense then the choices are the opposite as you pointed out.

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    I like both views of Plague and Elpargo. I was thinking;
    -3 Plasma Behemoth,
    -3 Full Moon,
    -4 Medusil,
    +3 Jewelers Dream (realised thanks to Reshiram's very smart comment)
    +3 Regeneration,
    +3 What Big Teeth/Speedstrike?

    I was thinking SpeedStrike might do good with Jewelers Dream. I'm not sure about it though. I guess I just want Wulven to get a major buff xD
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    34 Jeweller's Dream? Did you hack the deck construction server or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick Carjes View Post
    lol maybe he dont play it :P
    nope. he cant play it, deck is too weak lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukkie View Post
    nope. he cant play it, deck is too weak lol
    Sure. Coming from the guy who I just LOLpwned twice less than 20 minutes ago. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiend View Post
    Sure. Coming from the guy who I just LOLpwned twice less than 20 minutes ago. ^^
    Ohh someone just got the e-shit smacked outta them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiend View Post
    I like both views of Plague and Elpargo. I was thinking;
    -3 Plasma Behemoth,
    -3 Full Moon,
    -4 Medusil,
    +3 Jewelers Dream (realised thanks to Reshiram's very smart comment)
    +3 Regeneration,
    +3 What Big Teeth/Speedstrike?

    I was thinking SpeedStrike might do good with Jewelers Dream. I'm not sure about it though. I guess I just want Wulven to get a major buff xD
    I think Speedstrike doesn't combo well with Jeweler's Dream, because of the weapon's duration. But try it out and tell us what was the result (the +4 resource per turn seems tempting)
    I just don't get why you removed almost all your allies. You sure can't win a game only with 3 Jeweler's Dream and 4 Gargoyle. I would leave at least the Behemots where they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GustCM2 View Post
    I think Speedstrike doesn't combo well with Jeweler's Dream, because of the weapon's duration. But try it out and tell us what was the result (the +4 resource per turn seems tempting)
    I just don't get why you removed almost all your allies. You sure can't win a game only with 3 Jeweler's Dream and 4 Gargoyle. I would leave at least the Behemots where they were.
    You're right. XD I added in some allies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumsey View Post
    Ohh someone just got the e-shit smacked outta them.
    Lol
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