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    I think the nerf is good. Apparent it was op before the nerf. Its more balanced after the nerf but still quite strong. Potentially you can kill 4 allies with 4cc and 4se.

    I would suggest further nerfing it to either:
    -2 se to activate or
    -2 durability to activate

    However, either one of them could make it down to non-existing. So a better one will be giving it an alternative cost: you could choose to use 2se or 2 durability to activate. This will give a more flexible option imo.

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    How about costing 1 resource (like amulet)

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    one of the debate was it could kill 2 allies combining Vic's ability, how bout
    - hero become exhausted after activating Shuriken's ability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tolerance View Post
    one of the debate was it could kill 2 allies combining Vic's ability, how bout
    - hero become exhausted after activating Shuriken's ability?
    Wouldn't matter. They can use Victor's ability before Shuriken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolerance View Post
    one of the debate was it could kill 2 allies combining Vic's ability, how bout
    - hero become exhausted after activating Shuriken's ability?
    Quote Originally Posted by A1 Daemon Rayge View Post
    Wouldn't matter. They can use Victor's ability before Shuriken.
    I think what is being suggested is something more along the lines of this:

    Exhaust your hero: If no hero abilities have been activated this turn and there are at least 3 opposing allies in play, target opposing ally is killed, and your hero loses 1 shadow energy.

    Is that accurate?
    Last edited by Kross; 01-13-2017 at 06:53 PM.

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    I hate these "if opponent control more than 3, you get to do stuff for super cheap" cards

    They are simply no fun to play and play against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylt View Post
    I hate these "if opponent control more than 3, you get to do stuff for super cheap" cards

    They are simply no fun to play and play against.
    I hate these nerf the card so I don't have to change my deck thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xander Spitfire View Post
    I hate these nerf the card so I don't have to change my deck thread.
    I've said this a lot throughout this thread but i'll say it again. It is a good card for a lot of mus. It can take down fatties or rush or even help vs control as they start to take board. It is too versatile to be this cheap. It has nothing to do with the deck being played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tolerance View Post
    one of the debate was it could kill 2 allies combining Vic's ability, how bout
    - hero become exhausted after activating Shuriken's ability?
    This is brilliant

    I detest the fact that 2-3 allies are easily killed off in 1 turn at very little cost to the shuriken user (4cc, if they played it that turn, 1se) then vic or garth usually uses their ability, kills another ally between attacking it with their weapons, allies, and still has resources enough to play a retreat or a poison arrow or concoction.

    People argue that control sacrifices speed to setup draw and should be allowed more tools to control, the other side is that midrange and agro sacrifice longevity and good draw to setup an early board and apply pressure. This tool is simply too versatile and too cheap at containing other archetypes. Allowing you to delete a threat every turn for 1se is too much. Staying back until shuriken is gone by staying at 2 allies is suicide. Flooding the board is a worse plan since shuriken targets your biggest threat, then picks off your flood of smaller weenies.

    Editn second thought, exhausting the hero won't cause them to not be able to use their ability, which still allows an excessive amount of 1 sided removal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady View Post
    I've said this a lot throughout this thread but i'll say it again. It is a good card for a lot of mus. It can take down fatties or rush or even help vs control as they start to take board. It is too versatile to be this cheap. It has nothing to do with the deck being played.
    Shuriken is irrelevant unless your opponent has 3 allies in play. It has everything to do with the deck being played.
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