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    Quote Originally Posted by dejvo View Post
    Wohoo, spoilers. But you start with warriors???? What kind of person plays this abominations.

    War giant looks seriously op. There are already plenty of ways to give this beast a defender and even if without it with it has huge health and you will need to sacrifice at least 2 allies to kill him. Even gwen with rapid fire can't kill this beast in one turn. Tala, Amber and Vess are going to be T0.5

    EDIT: whoa it doesn't even have unique? Are you kidding me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddy Is Here View Post
    i feel like Chaos Engine will help Logan more than it will help Ter Adun.
    Gravebone joke aside I agree with this. Despite what's being intented Chaos Engine won't help Ter Adun as much as Logan and likely Vess. Ter doesnt need draw. His ability is overcosted in the game now and the rest of the Warriors have access to item hate as well so he's shorthanded compare to them. What he needs is board control tool that works with his ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejvo View Post
    Does anyone want to play shadow heroes? BTW there's also plenty of attachments for steadfast. TPS, Transmog, MC, Tidal are the only way to deal with this, and first two usually don't come 4x in decks. (I don't count disable attachments as I expect people to have way to deal with this). where do I sign to pfg and break this guy?
    You mentioned Gwen specifically. Also, Shadow Hunters can use TPS.

    As for breaking this guy, I'm sure you would be a great addition to the PFG when we re-open the doors, so make sure you apply when we're looking for people. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    You mentioned Gwen specifically. Also, Shadow Hunters can use TPS.

    As for breaking this guy, I'm sure you would be a great addition to the PFG when we re-open the doors, so make sure you apply when we're looking for people. Thanks!
    Well I mentioned Gwen as she can deal most damage in one turn with weapon (ok, maybe rothem with berserker edge and ability can do 9, but that's not going to happen in T6-7). What I am trying to say is that this guy is now best 6cc warrior drop (except for Viska vs solo hero) and the combination of damage reduction, huge body and ally exiling seems too strong. Maybe compared to other things coming up this might be mediocre
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    ええな
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKKYO View Post
    ええな
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    In English please. Google translate above comes up with:

    "Yeah I
    I personally Ya fun Priest"


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    Quote Originally Posted by dejvo View Post
    Well I mentioned Gwen as she can deal most damage in one turn with weapon (ok, maybe rothem with berserker edge and ability can do 9, but that's not going to happen in T6-7). What I am trying to say is that this guy is now best 6cc warrior drop (except for Viska vs solo hero) and the combination of damage reduction, huge body and ally exiling seems too strong. Maybe compared to other things coming up this might be mediocre
    Shouldn't the 6cc Warrior ally be the best 6cc ally that Warriors can use? It's debatable whether this is the case, but I don't see it as a problem if War Giant is their best choice of 6cc ally.

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    I love the new cards!

    However, I take issue with this statement:

    "As an added bonus, this should boost the Ravager alignment with any Shadow Warrior, but we expect Ter Adun to get the most value from this in the same way that Jericho was boosted by Lingering Essence."


    While Essence did help Jericho tremendously, it was Embers of the Just that gave him an archetype that was playable. Then you nerfed Embers, and now POOF, no Jeri. Essence was only good for Jeri so long as he has something worth destroying. How about we don't make the same mistake with this one, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlanketEffect View Post
    Then you nerfed Embers, and now POOF, no Jeri.
    I appreciate you don't have access to the stats to confirm, but actually Jericho is still played our target amount at 250+ rating (approx 1/32 of all heroes are Jericho) and his win-rate is quite close to 50%.

    Having said that, I am open to potentially reverting Embers back to what it was before now that we have the possibility of chess clocks and automated tournaments with time limits and 50-card minimum on the horizon. He was definitely a problem before with the pre-nerf Embers, but maybe he would be OK with that Embers in the new environment. Watch this space but also don't hold your breath!

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    You know, somewhere between absolute nerf and obnoxiously too strong, the truth might lie. Perhaps don't "put it back to the way it was" and instead, since you know that's too strong, tweak it and do something like make it go back to the deck instead of the hand. Or, don't; you're the designer.

    My point is that a great card was made that created an entirely powerful archetype, and then that one card (Lingering Essence) was made fairly obsolete, considering the one card that was worth destroying with Jeri's ability got nerfed to the point of being irrelevant.
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