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    Just some input.

    Just a couple of thoughts.

    1) I think that warriors need a better draw. Its really poor and should be improved. Mages are soooooo much better at this.
    2) Karlstrad is very op at the moment. Needs a balance change. Hes been wrecking the meta.
    3) in lost lands part 2 are there any cards that will make garth a more playable here. Right now hes tier 3 at best.
    4) also logan bieng totally able to kill any creature on the board for just 4 se seems a little strong.

    Thanks.
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    All this is low priority stuff, gotta nerf hellsteed first!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by deckromancer View Post
    All this is low priority stuff, gotta nerf hellsteed first!!
    Logan is weakest warrior hero. Kills one card for four se plus you have to have a weapon. There are so many instant kill cards and board wipes you think logan needs a nerf LOL. if anything he needs a buffs. Like allowed to attack two times per turn when SE is activated passive ability.

    And Yes Warriors have weak draw but the entire game draw system is messed up along with alignments for allies and draw pools. This will never be fixed because they will not change older cards for whatever non-smart reason they have. It is one of the biggest factors making this game circling the drain, the fact they wont adjust older cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The MiddleAgedNerd View Post
    Just a couple of thoughts.

    1) I think that warriors need a better draw. Its really poor and should be improved. Mages are soooooo much better at this.
    2) Karlstrad is very op at the moment. Needs a balance change. Hes been wrecking the meta.
    3) in lost lands part 2 are there any cards that will make garth a more playable here. Right now hes tier 3 at best.
    4) also logan bieng totally able to kill any creature on the board for just 4 se seems a little strong.

    Thanks.
    I see what you did there

    One more thing , Caged Savage has a total stat of 6 while that of Firesnake is only 3. Clearly there's some powercreep going on here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fristar View Post
    Logan is weakest warrior hero. Kills one card for four se plus you have to have a weapon. There are so many instant kill cards and board wipes you think logan needs a nerf LOL. if anything he needs a buffs. Like allowed to attack two times per turn when SE is activated passive ability.

    And Yes Warriors have weak draw but the entire game draw system is messed up along with alignments for allies and draw pools. This will never be fixed because they will not change older cards for whatever non-smart reason they have. It is one of the biggest factors making this game circling the drain, the fact they wont adjust older cards.
    Yeah but think logan can kill anything. You drop a 7cc allie. Boom gone. Exiled even because of lythian. And i agree with you about warriors draw. What do you think they should do to improve warrior draw. Any suggestions?
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    Wow, I can only reply to your first point, the rest other people can maybe respond to if they want.

    How much draw do we need? and if anything there needs to be a distinction between "Shadow" and "Human" as just saying "Warriors" need better draw is not accurate since they have access to different cards between the two factions. To that point, Human warriors have more draw than Shadow warriors. Saying "better" is sort of a personal opinion too, a lot of the more conservative players can make do with what is available, and I'm not saying who has the best draw or the most between all the classes since draw is not the only factor to consider in the scheme of all things to do with balance. Don't get me wrong, if they give us more draw I will always take it.

    Here is a hasty list of warrior draw (could easily have missed some since there is so many) Humans then Shadow:

    Spirt of Devotion
    Campfire Stories
    Bad Santa
    Meltdown
    Glimmer of Hope
    Spontaneous Growth
    Blood Frenzy
    Treasured Heirloom
    Road Less traveled
    Confluence of Fate
    Honored Dead
    Master Smith
    Rest for the Weary
    Ley Line Nexus
    Overwhelm

    Loom of Fate
    Bazaar
    Twiglight Eidolon
    Scriptures of the Righteous
    Crystal Shards
    Aldmor Conduit

    Dimension Ripper
    Looter’s Baton

    The Wilds
    Racksul
    Ravenscrest

    Vigilant Wisp
    Aldmor Artisan
    Lily Rosecult
    Tainted Oracle
    Braxnorian Veteran
    Twilight Luminary
    Aldmor Scavenger
    General of Unaxio
    Nathanias, People’s Champion

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    Sacrificial Lamb
    Bad Santa
    Meltdown
    Spontaneous Growth
    Blood Frenzy
    Here be Monsters
    Bloodthirsty
    Confluence of Fate
    Master Smith
    Rest for the Weary
    Ley Line Nexus
    Overwhelm

    Loom of Fate
    Bazaar
    Crystal Shards
    Aldmor Conduit
    Tombstone Beacon

    Dimension Ripper
    Looter’s Baton

    The Wilds
    Racksul
    Ravenscrest
    Rankett

    Wulven Traitor
    Aldmor Artisan
    Belladonna
    Wulven Tracker
    Braxnorian Veteran
    Falseblood Cultist
    Shadow Knight

    If you can't find ways to draw there is something wrong with the way you look at the cards, this game tends to offer a lot of ways to draw for everyone. If anything forum users need "better" "spellcheck" more often...

    Good luck and have fun out there!

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    I always wanted to build a freeze Eladwen deck but hesitated because Karlstrad is so common. If only this card wouldn't have been created we could have some cool new and fun strategies but nooo every human has access to it. Just ridiculous.

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    @tafkad Most of the card on you list aren't as braindead as possible . What Warrior needs is a second Blood frenzy without health drawback and only cost 2 so you can cast it for free with Jeweler's Dream out .

    I mean , look at Blood Frenzy , it is clearly an underpowered card. Mage and Elemental draw engine can let you play the engine and draw a card in 1 turn just for a tiny extra cost. Priest can even choose from a poll of 3 cards , what's priest hero ability again ? Oh right, Priest don't need a hero ability, because their cardpool is OP. Hunter has an OP attachment that are recyclable and can be used to kill stuffs, not to mention an armor that can net potentially more card draw than Blood Frenzy. Wulven's engine only cost 2 and let you see the card you are gonna draw at the end of your turn instead of the start of the next, AN ENTIRE TURN to look at the card you've just drawn, that's some super strategically advantage right there. Rogue's engine costs 1 extra more but without the health cost, and we are always killing allies so the condition doesn't matter, plus it can potentially net more card draw, so much better than BloodFrenzy, right , right ? Not to mention that Serena can get +1 card advantage for her and -1 for you on turn 5,6 , that's 4 cards difference in just 2 turns, such powercreep

    Now look at Blood Frenzy, it is too slow and it interfere with your tempo . You want a 3cc ally turn 3 and play Jeweler turn 4 . By the time it's turn 5 , everyone would have lost all the patience and sac Blood Frenzy already. If you are not playing Tempo warrior then you are playing Stall warrior , so what is the point of playing a card that kill you in stall deck ? 10 health for 10 cards ? That is too much a sacrifice.

    Clearly, Warrior needs better card draw. They excels at nothing. I'm pretty sure that throughout CotC and DP , Amber was always tier 4 - unplayable tier.

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