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    Oliver Fang needs a scale back on card damage I think. Opinions?

    For seven u steal a enemy ally and also have a 8-9 dmg ally.

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    No he is fine. Hes unique expensive and not a 8 7 its very conditional.

    Ive seen him with 2 or 3 attack just as often
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    no, i think he should be nerfed. we could have his attack based off your own SE total.
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    His name is Oliver Fagin, it's a very clever reference to Charles Dickens's Fagin from Oliver Twist novel. And it's one of the greatest cards in the game, but it's not OP by any means. In fact, 7cc ally with a conditional ability and conditional strengh is not so strong. Try to see the whole picture, not only how big of a treat a card is for you in a given match-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn0 View Post
    no, i think he should be nerfed. we could have his attack based off your own SE total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anasia View Post
    His name is Oliver Fagin, it's a very clever reference to Charles Dickens's Fagin from Oliver Twist novel. And it's one of the greatest cards in the game, but it's not OP by any means. In fact, 7cc ally with a conditional ability and conditional strengh is not so strong. Try to see the whole picture, not only how big of a treat a card is for you in a given match-up.
    Ive never seen someone use him with only two cards in there hands. Its always a full hand, so 8 dmg plus he steals an ally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fristar View Post
    Ive never seen someone use him with only two cards in there hands. Its always a full hand, so 8 dmg plus he steals an ally.
    False. Ive seen it plenty of times. And honestly if your opponent always has a fullnhand all the time I think you need to revisit what item desteuction or lack therof your using. Even serena shouldn't have a full hand all the time. Use your smashing blows. And the stealing an ally isnt that big a deal. Its only a 3cc ally. Plus hes late game. Hes fine.
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    He is fine. Literally no one complained about him back in shattered fates. Honestly he is just as good as Nathanious, people's champion.

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    Here is my opinion on the matter and i think that many people will agree. Next time you think a card or deck is too strong ttry using it. Find a good garth or serena deck with oli and try it. You might be shocked to find its not as good as you think. Put yourself in the other persons shoes. Try it for a dozen games and see what happens. That way you can make an informed decision rather than just thinking that a card is too good. I can tell you oli is not op at all. Compare him to say dakrath. Both are 7cc. However dakrath has damage reduction cant be crippled can be frozen. Hes very strong. Or nathanies. Amazing stats and a conditional free ally. For 7cc an ally needs to be powerful. So find a good thief deck and try it. But you need to male informed and educated opinions on what to nerf or call for a nerf. And you cant unless you play with thise cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fristar
    Ive never seen someone use him with only two cards in there hands. Its always a full hand, so 8 dmg plus he steals an ally.
    That's just good strategy, most people know that playing him at a full hand gives the most value. Better to play him at a full hand and just keep him at a high attack always than play at a low attack and rely on being able to draw enough stuff to make him gain a significant amount. If anything it's just Rogues having good draw options to allow them usually assure this.
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