Embers of the Just*

[Megatog201]

So you Probably know how much I hate this card if you ever read the forums. I believe I have now figured out the best way to fix it for the good of the game... And my sanity.

Embers of the just 2CC
Priest Attachment
Attach to an opposing ally. That ally is set ablaze.
When Embers of the just is targeted and destroyed on your turn deal 4 arcane damage to target opposing hero or ally. Then it is shuffled into your deck and you draw a card.

This fixes a lot that is wrong with the card. What do you guys think?

[Gondorian]

You'll still see it many many times in the game. I don't even think shuffling into the deck is necessary, to be honest.

[Maximont]

I think u just made it stronger. With 4 embers in deck + General of Unaxio then it won't be hard to draw when needed. Especially if they draw a card (2 cards with confluence out) every time they use it.

[Sisyphos]

So you Probably know how much I hate this card if you ever read the forums. I believe I have now figured out the best way to fix it for the good of the game... And my sanity.

Embers of the just 2CC
Priest Attachment
Attach to an opposing ally. That ally is set ablaze.
When Embers of the just is targeted and destroyed on your turn deal 4 arcane damage to target opposing hero or ally. Then it is shuffled into your deck and you draw a card.

This fixes a lot that is wrong with the card. What do you guys think?

I ... kinda like it. It's a nerf for sure, but should still be playable for Jerry while avoiding the feeling of doom all slower ally decks get when encountering him. Now there's always a possible window after each use of Embers.

I think u just made it stronger. With 4 embers in deck + General of Unaxio then it won't be hard to draw when needed. Especially if they draw a card (2 cards with confluence out) every time they use it.

Don't agree with that. For one, Embers already does draw a card of sorts, it's just always gonna be Embers. With Tog's suggestion, there's a chance it won't be Embers. Jerry also wouldn't sac' additional copies anymore, at least not without thinking twice, which leads to more other cards being sac'ed instead of played.

[Megatog201]

Exactly. Plus they won't always have General. As it stands now you can safely sac all but that one copy. This change will balance the decks as it will take more skill to pilot if you decide to keep Embers as your wincon.

You'll still see it many many times in the game. I don't even think shuffling into the deck is necessary, to be honest.

While you will still see it it will require more skill to play. Not just play it every time you get 4SE or every time you draw Sever Ties. You won't be able to sac every other copy. Plus even as the deck thins there is no guarantee that it will be there. This gives creature based decks a better feel. Its not auto hopeless once Jerry gets set up.

[Piercing Serenity]

Alternative Suggestions:

1)
Description: Attach to an opposing ally. That ally is set ablaze. If Embers of the Just is targeted and destroyed on the turn that it was played, it returns to your hand. If Embers of the just is targeted and destroyed during one of your subsequent turns, deal 4 damage to target hero or ally (Embers of the Just is then sent to the graveyard).

Rationale: Creates option to either apply ablaze or deal damage without sacrificing combo ability. If Jericho chooses to apply ablaze, then EotJ is a 2CC burn card that costs additional resources (or shadow energy) to recover. If Jericho chooses to apply damage, then the opposing player has a turn to destroy the ally carrying EotJ, allowing for some counter play

2)
Description: Attach to an opposing ally. That ally is set ablaze. If Embers of the Just is targeted and destroyed on the turn that it was played, it returns to your hand. Deal 4 damage to target hero or ally. If Embers of the just is targeted and destroyed during one of your subsequent turns, deal 4 damage to target hero or ally (Embers of the Just is then sent to the graveyard).

Rationale: This description is less of a change than the previous one, allowing for less flexibility without compromising EotJ's speed. This wording forces EotJ to be targeted on the turn it was played to be recollected, forcing Jericho to either commit 4 SE or additional cards or resources to keep the combo going. Otherwise, the card is destroyed.

3)
Description: Attach to an opposing ally. That ally is set ablaze. If Embers of the Just is targeted and destroyed on the turn that it was played, it returns to your hand. Deal 4 damage to target hero or ally. If Embers of the just is targeted and destroyed during one of your subsequent turns, deal 4-X damage to target hero or ally, where X equals the number of your turns that have passed since Embers of the Just was played. (Embers of the Just is then returned to your hand).

Rationale: The least dramatic change of the three. This wording creates a more narrow margin of error for Jericho if he cannot remove EotJ directly after it is applied. Jericho must commit either 4 SE or additional resources/cards to maximize EotJ's effect. Otherwise, the opposing player has time to destroy the attachment (or ally) themselves, and/or receives less damage if the Jericho player removes it

[Kosmiker]

So much lettering... the best nerf is simply to remove the recursion and that's it. Reduce the cost to 1cc if needed or add some spice to the damage (like unpreventable damage).

Attach to target opposing ally and that ally is set ablaze. If Embers of the Just is targeted and destroyed on your turn target opposing hero or ally takes 4 arcane damage.