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    when officially deck is considered mill/stall

    i would like to make a discussion about that mostly for pop-ups.it usually bans mill/stall decks. i personally like it.
    but i want to know official description what is considered mill/stall - hero/deck configuration/playstyle.
    heros like MS, prax, skervox are mill or stall heros already by themselves.does ban includes them too?
    which cards and what amount of them does make other heros mill/stall?what about playstyle, when mill is just one of the ways to play the deck, but not the only one.
    also for examlpe if i put intto standard meatwagon prax deck 2 AHIL ,1armour of ages and 1 energy discharge, does it make it called stall/mill?
    or there should be more of those cards?is it then about the percentage of the deck with certain cards?

    it would be nice to sort it out

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    it can be boiled down to one thing, regardless of the cards in your deck what is the main win condition of your deck?


    if a decks main win condition is to mill out your opponents deck, that is a mill deck. if you main way to win is to stall and remove your opponents cards till they have no cards left by basically not letting them do anything, then its a stall deck.

    but that is hard to define so we have to look at what cards are in the decks
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    also, if you win a lot with all hope is lost looping, thats a mill deck for sure, haha
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    Stop banning mill/stall which has ambiguous definitions. Make rules unambiguous by banning subsets of cards/heroes if you don't want them to be played. Then this discussion won't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn0 View Post
    also, if you win a lot with all hope is lost looping, thats a mill deck for sure, haha
    what exactly 'a lot' means? more than 50 percent?
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    if you win more with that, than the total of all other ways, then thats a lot.
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    so in short - 'AHIL' is banned from popup if there is mill restriction?
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    i mean there are counters.. shadowknight loop just raped my prax.. soo hardd..., infnity core... eternal renew.. killing the hero before they can mill your deck..?
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    we could do that ince it only damages when the other person is milled out
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    Ban Rain Delay, Full Moon, Armor of Ages, and decks cannot have more than 60 cards including hero. The only non stall decks that suffer from this are solo Gwen and solo Darkclaw, and those decks can't actually win a decklock tournament anyway.
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