Future of Aramia (nerf or not)

[maskee]

Aramia Aetherborn Wisp deck -> Wisp nerfed
Discard Aramia -> Dagger of Fate nerfed
Piramia -> Flameforged Gauntlets changed
Twilight Aramia -> ???
Rush´n´Burn Aramia -> ???

Many very powerful decks was made with her and many cards had to be changed. But I think the problem is in Aramia itself. If DT will not reconsider her ability, how many cards in future will be nerfed or changed to not give her too much power?

There was said lot about it in Balance threat, but I want to make this one specially for discussion about her only!

Here are some interesting ideas how to change her ability:

I still think her ability should just be "3SE: Seek target item of cost 3cc or less and put it on your hand." Still draws a card, still seeks the card she wants, doesn't benefit from tempo.

i Like it, the idea isn't make aramia useless, just prevent in future be soooo OP.
Other change would be "3SE: Seek target item of 3cc or less and put it on play, and remove one resource." So she keep the fast seek and put in board, but the summon speed is forced to go down.

My advice is: "Draw a card. Play 3cc or less item from hand for free."

So what do you think?

[Index]

Aramia will keep affecting all the coming items with 3 cost or less in the future for sure.

[Kosmiker]

After some thought I think my own suggestion needs a slight buff, it would work better with items up to 4cc. This way aramia would still have a solid ability without being too overpowered.

[Ranĝelo]

i agree. She needs a nerf. Seek ability for a hero is op. Lost lands will bring us new cards with this ability, but they are allies, which we can kill, exile or disable. I can remember now that Ricochet trap and sanctuary can prevent her of using her ability... or a lot of priest of the light... or shadowspawn... xD

Your suggestion is fine.

[Anonymos]

Agree

[Caitlyn0]

oh geez

[morbius]

We already discuses this and my position remains - while I don't think Aramia is OP as things are now, I'd rather see a nerf to her ability right now then multitude of nerfs to items available to humans in future expansions.

[CengizhanTR]

There are "less used" cards that can easily counter those decks you mentioned. Like Chain Mail to counter rush aramia, if some decks are popular in QM, you should play the counter to win. You could include 4x chainmail to easily beat Rush Aramia, also if you use a hunter like banebow you wont even have any problem with spelleaterbands or soulseeker. It's all about Good or bad matchup, Twilight Aramia Looses to Exalmentalis since she has problems dealing with Steadfast and 6 hp. Making a nerf thread just because its being played alot in top 300 rating QM isn't something productive. They aren't undefeatable, just craft better decks and stop playing with standart themed decks (not for you im talking in general) , like control zhanna or discard elementals. Add in invidual cards to help you play against (tech) against those decks and you'll see they aren't op at all.

[Kosmiker]

This is more about the constriction that aramia implies to future 3cc item cards than about her current status, I do agree that right now she isn't OP but then again, that was at the cost of nerfing pretty much any interesting 3cc item from fates. I don't like the idea that future 3cc items will all have to pass through the examination of "This card is fine with these heroes but would be too OP for aramia so we'll just make it 4cc".

[streetsahead]

The point is, she's repeatedly a t1 hero. No matter the meta, no matter the deck used. She will find something to abuse. Every time one of her toys gets taken away there's a shift, and people start using the next best thing. So we're currently on the fourth next best thing. And it's still t1.

Imo this isn't an example of some popular deck in the meta, where everyone needs to tech up to teach it ba lesson. It's the fact that no matter the conditions, Aramia easily abuses whatever is the current best thing for her to abuse. No other hero has shown the ability to just sidestep having their current "best" card being nerft, adapt a whole new deck, and stay t1.

She is cancer. Cancer must be treated.