Kiruth: Thaddeus' Vault

**Gondorian** · 11-19-2015, 11:35 AM

**Buqs** · 11-19-2015, 12:08 PM

I want that for a playmat

**Daemon Rayge** · 11-19-2015, 12:23 PM

Fun with Gravebone

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**maskee** · 11-19-2015, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Kaos Dark

Fun with Gravebone

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Not sure how do you mean it?
Can´t find out what this is good for exept Gravemonger

... any ideas?

Perfect art, this artist (will not name;-) is much better in no-person pictures... love this one.

**maxi1230** · 11-19-2015, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by maskee

Not sure how do you mean it?
Can´t find out what this is good for exept Gravemonger

... any ideas?

Perfect art, this artist (will not name;-) is much better in no-person pictures... love this one.

His ability removes them from the graveyard

**jtl2901** · 11-19-2015, 03:17 PM

Also Shadow Knight

removes the previous ally from the graveyard

**Anonymos** · 11-19-2015, 03:18 PM

He means the undead gravebone deck that wasnt so good before. Getting Dakrath

into graveyard "removing" him with your ability and playing another allie. Or using collector to buff himself and give 1 res

**BP Holy Punisher** · 11-19-2015, 03:25 PM

Personally I don't know what removes mean since there's no such keyword. My interpretation is that it is triggered by exiling cards only, since exile is defined as removing card from play or graveyard. But GB's ability and any such ability returns cards to play or hand so unless a keyword removes is defined I can't see the connection of these two..

PS: Really cool artwork indeed!

**jtl2901** · 11-19-2015, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Holy Punisher

Personally I don't know what removes mean since there's no such keyword. My interpretation is that it is triggered by exiling cards only, since exile is defined as removing card from play or graveyard. But GB's ability and any such ability returns cards to play or hand so unless a keyword removes is defined I can't see the connection of these two..

PS: Really cool artwork indeed!

I'm pretty certain this is affected by taking an ally from the graveyard and returning it to play, or into your hand, not just exiling. So for example Shadow Knight

, Death Collector

ability (from your own graveyard), Necro Shroud, should all trigger this ability.

**BP Holy Punisher** · 11-19-2015, 03:44 PM

Language speaking yes I agree with you, but we have seen that TCG rules are not like that and this is why we need a rulebook. So according to current wording there is exile (special case of removing from play), remove from play (see Soul Reaper

) and returning cards from gy. All these serve specific and different function thus they have their own wording. Having an ability that applies to all of these needs a much better wording and not re-use one of its subcategories. I'll wait GDC response, but if it is true what you are saying then the wording is really bad and inconsistent with the previous one imho.