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    Sword Thief - No.
    Vozitian Trader - Sure, whatever.
    Rampant krygon - No.
    Spitfire Hound - No.
    Twilight Opportunist - Yes.
    Amulet - No.
    VF Archer - Probably.
    BP Shaman - No.
    Sindarok - Make its ability damage 1HP.
    Confluence - Hell yes. Given that Blood Frenzy is only for one type and confluence can be used by all, it should at least be worse than BF to give a fair advantage to warriors. No? I'm the only one who thinks so?
    For Unaxio - Either nerf Confluence or nerf this. Not the both of them.
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    Buffs:
    Sword Thief 3cc 2/3 - he stuns stuff I guess.
    BUFF: Make him a 2/4.
    WHY: He's slightly worse than Layarian Seductress which is counter intuitive for a class card (which supposedly are supposed to be better than normal cards remember?).
    Nah: 3 Yeah:

    Nah. We don't need a strictly better Seductress for Rogue. If Seductress always disabled then she, too, would be a 2/3.

    Vozitian Trader 3cc 3/4 - gains +1 atk per item played. Oooh scary ~ no one ever.
    BUFF: 2/5 with the +1 per item.
    WHY: Worse case scenario he grows into a 3/5 or a 4/5 but you can still deal with him to stop him from snowballing. Why isn't this OP you ask? Yari Vanguard is a 3;5 and Cleric of Asyn snowballs harder with item destruction themed decks. Imho I just enjoy the growing attribute pasted on allies.
    Nah: Yeah: 1

    Nah. I'm a little against making every 3cc a 5 HP ally. This guys is an aggressive 3cc that will kill most opposing 3cc allies when IGG is played right after. His ability is a little lackluster, though.

    Rampant Krygon 3cc 2/1 - he pings stuff but armor ignores him.
    BUFF: 3/1 with the ping.
    WHY: Face it he's useless now so why not just make him a removal card (a fireball for an ally I guess) since he won't be around very long.
    Nah: 1 Yeah:

    Hell nah. Although, I wouldn't be opposed to making him a 2/2 again.

    Spitfire Hound 2cc 1/3 - he blows up stuff and does 3 dmg to an ally.
    BUFF: Make him a 2/3 his ability doesn't have to cripple him.
    WHY: "Oh but Lucas Spitfire becomes a 4/3 with Thriss Almanac!". Good point but Avenger of the Fallen becomes a 4/4 WHEN 3 OTHER (templar) ALLIES DIE. CMON. At least have him up to par.
    Nah:1 Yeah:

    NAHHHHHH. Perfect trade-off.

    Twilight Opportunist 2cc 0/4 - gets +3 and dies next turn.
    BUFF: Make her a 1/4 gets +2 and dies next turn.
    WHY: Not a big change but it allows for twilight to be dropped without being smacked down because she can't fight back. Or at least the avenger thing where she has +1 on your turn or something.
    Nah: Yeah:1

    Nah. A 1/4 is massive board presence. Considering how easily the Twilight tribe can buff each other, it can become really problematic.

    Amulet of Conjuring 4cc - Draw 3 cards but sustain 1se remove 1 resource and deal 1 dmg.
    BUFF: Just remove the dmg please, its very uneccesary.
    WHY: The sustain and resource kill are fine for keeping the card and the hero from using their ability wildy in check.
    Nah: Yeah:1

    Nah. I would change it back to 1 SE, 1 resource, 1 damage.

    Venomflame Archer 3cc 3/4 - she poisons and burns stuff for 1SE
    BUFF: Change 1SE to 2cc(?)
    WHY: For the same reasons that Jade falls flat on her face Venomflame costs SE so a change from SE to cc would give her a bit more prescence and not limit the hero ability.
    Nah:1 Yeah:

    Nah. 2cc is very demanding and it's tempo loss. Her ability is to help control the board without you needing to use your ability.

    NERFS

    Bloodpack Shaman 2cc 3/1 - he brings himself back infinitely.
    NERF: Proposed nerf I really don't know make him shuffle an ally to the top of the deck or something.
    WHY: You know I was going to mention this but when it comes to a point that the only way MS can be beaten is by killing both his draw and 4 of these looping annoyances winning with half my hp gone by turn 5 because of stealth and holding on with 8hp left by sheer luck of my draw is pretty stupid.
    Nah:1 Yeah:1

    Nah. I would rather it just not be able to target itself. It can target whatever the hell it wants, but not itself.

    Sindrarock Apprentice 3cc 2/4 - It's a 4/4. I don't understand.
    NERF: Could it be a 4/4 when other templars are around it or something? That way you'll be able to at least play around it.
    WHY: It used to be when it was alone it became a 4/4 and obv that sucked but now it's a 4/4 cause why not. No ally matches up to it since the 2 extra dmg is basically ambush so its ridiculous that the only way to remove this is by direct removal.
    Nah: Yeah:1

    Nah. Make it require ANOTHER Templar ally the way Guardian's old passive worked. Alone it'd be crap and it gives you another way of playing around it.

    Confluence of Fate 2cc - attachments give you cards to a max of 3.
    NERF: At least making it a 3cc seems plausible to just slow down the terror this card causes.
    WHY: I'm against this tbh because its the thing that keeps my attachment lance afloat since I no longer suffer sustain.
    Nah: Yeah:1

    Nah. Only very specific decks break this card. I've seen very good Attachment Lances that don't utilize CoF.

    For Unaxio! 1cc - +1 attachment and it jumps back.
    NERF: The proposed change is that it comes back after your next turn.
    WHY: In case CoF above won't get touched at least this card can come into consideration? Combod with CoF its limitless draw for 1cc.
    Nah: Yeah:1

    Yeah. It's too strong with CoF.
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    Ganj you said nah to everything and I'm on the hunch didnt even bother reading them. You just explained what the Sindrarock nerf was and repeated you would want that then still voted no, sooo... I'll tally it as a yes(?)
    MAKE UP YOUR MIND PLEASE.
    On another note OP is now updated! Bye bye Sword Thief!
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    I was saying Yeah/Nah to your suggested buffs/nerfs.
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    So Sindrarock is a yeah?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBlitz View Post
    So Sindrarock is a yeah?
    Yes definitely. Sorry for the confusion. BPS, Krygon, Amulet should all be Yeah, too.
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    Cool cool thank you
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    I might as well dump my votes too to avoid any confusion, my reasoning is up on the OP.
    Vozitian Trader: Yes!
    Rampant Krygon: Yes, return Krygon to a 2/2.
    Spitfire Hound: Yes.
    Twilight Opportunist: Yes.
    Amulet: Yes
    VF Archer: Yes, change Archer ability from SE to cc.
    BP Shaman: Yes to implement a change.
    Sindarok: Yes.
    Confluence: No.
    For Unaxio: Yes, in case confluence is not changed this can be changed in case.
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    I would personally change Venomflame Archer's effect to something like:
    When this card is summoned, target opposing ally is poisoned and set ablaze. 2cc: Target opposing ally takes 1 fire and 1 poison damage.

    One card I would like to see changed is Grimjaw Hydra. I would instead of the passive negation occurring upon damage, it occurs when it attacks (Same timing as Dragon's Tooth). So it could have some more value as a Tech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBlitz View Post
    Confluence: No.
    For Unaxio: Yes, in case confluence is not changed this can be changed in case.
    If CoF won't be changed, wulven shouldn't release new strong 1cc attachment anymore.
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