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    Obelisk of Echoes in the future

    Obelisk of Echoes

    Shadow Item Artifact
    1D: If an opposing ally was killed by a friendly Ravager ally this turn, target item or ability is destroyed.


    With the next card release around the corner we are all excited about new possibilities and for some that includes new Ravengers which will make the tribe easier to play.
    Obelisk of Echoes appears to be very powerful for it's cost, and it may not have caused any issues yet because Ravangers are currently somewhat difficult to play. Although at this current release it's not causing any issues, it may be quite overpowered when the tribe is more fleshed out.

    What are people's thoughts? (Am I being overly cautious?)

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    I think it's very powerful given its activation condition and low resource cost. The main condition is forcing you to play ravagers so a powerful effect specific to them is appropriate,but I do feel that it is too easy to activate. I raised up this issue in this thread but not many replies were had. Have a look.

    http://www.shadowera.com/showthread.php?t=33179

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    It also lets Spitfire Hound to use it's ability at T2. If you make it more costly you would also be taking that away. We don't know what's in the next set so it's all an assumption at this point but if a nerf was really needed, adding an activation cost would make more sense than changing the casting cost.
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    I think, as it is universal item AND ability destruction, and in a Ravager deck its qualifier is NOT hard to meet, that being able to get 2x uses out of it is a bit too strong for its cost of (1).

    I think either lower its durability to 1 at its remaining cost of (1), or raise its cost to (2) to balance out its capability to destroy two targets.
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    Honestly, I think Shriek of Vengeance is a better card and will be a better card than Obelisk of Echoes.

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    I have always found it difficult to time and trigger properly. Maybe a card comes out in the future which synergies really well with it, but I don't see it becoming overpowered.

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    2 uses is too much in my opinion.
    I'd raise the durability to 3, but require 2D to activate it.
    This way you can use it only once to destroy an item, but after that it stays in play so you can still use it as a sac target.
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    didnt we just have this conversation yesterday?
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    I definitely share the concerns, as soon as Ravager tribe is playable-ish, this card will blow out of proportion. The only negative is that it is useless against solo heroes, if that ever becomes a real thing
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    ravagers are very playable busti. try otto's baduruu deck or my ter adun deck

    if solo decks become a thing? do i need to get that going again?

    and i SWEAR we have had this conversation before... i even remember posting that its not obelisk you have to look out for, its cleric's mantle
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