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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahiri View Post
    Amulet's change is senseless imho.
    This way it is still usable for rush mages (especially Aramia, but also Loest), but totally useless for other mages, like Majiya and Raikka that would need it.
    Ythan ability buff is ok, but it doesn't remove it's main weakness, the lack of board impact. It will be easier to buff him with good hasted allies in future though. At least moonstalker and tala are not autoloss anymore.
    I'm also wondering why Raikka wasn't buffed.
    The change to Dagger of Fate was needed because of that annoying rush Aramia, but Zaladar should have something back. Brimstone devourer ha been nerfed, Soulbound Armor has been nerfed, Krygon has been nerfed, Harbinger has been nerfed, Cutlass has been removed from his pool, Dagger has been nerfed. Zaladar player must be very angry these days...
    I agree on all of the above.

    Harbinger change combined with all the other zal nerfs and dagger nerf also seems to be a mistake. The whole discard archetype has been nerfed almost to nothing. Harbinger is now absolutely inferior to Karash unless its grave resistance build.

    Double nerf to Krygon seems too much (at least keep the -1 health). Most of the other changes are good, with a few simply don't matter (e.g. metamorphic vest, wulven rally, yari armour)
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    My poor discard Elementalis lol.
    I like all other Changes tough they are well thought.

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    Amulet got nerfed. Sustain 1 se is too much.

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    Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ..., gondorian is it sure ?? Man please don't do this to zeal .. also rampant was really OK .. you needed zaladar much .. that's bad .. very bad .. also amulet is now ultimate bad np it may fix somethings .. also harbinger is zal? Please .. don't do this to zal
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxi1230 View Post
    My poor discard Elementalis lol.
    I like all other Changes tough they are well thought.
    Lol will someone use discard?? I can't imagine elementalis is going tier 3 again ... zal will be removed from tier 1 ? Guys... that's too much .. toooooo much for discard play style which I love .. if you want to kill aramia make dagger of fate 4 dura 4cc and we forget about aramia rush OK?
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    Elementalis can be good with different builds, but the discard version is dead.
    Zaladar will be the most nerfed by far.

    I like the proposal to make Dagger of Fate 4cc with 4 durability.
    Some other elemental cards should be buffed at this point.
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    Ok amulet of conjuring is now a useless card. That is a huge nerf that should not happen. Sustain 1 SE sucks. Making one hit point and one recourses lost is enough.

    Harbinger was fine as was krygon.

    And the cloak of mending will be a huge op. That's 20 damage heal over its life and if you have four in a dck that's 80 heal. Little ridiculous. I understand you would never use that much but unless you have serious item removal that will be way to overpowered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahiri View Post
    Elementalis can be good with different builds, but the discard version is dead.
    Zaladar will be the most nerfed by far.

    I like the proposal to make Dagger of Fate 4cc with 4 durability.
    Some other elemental cards should be buffed at this point.
    I agree .. gondorian??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahiri View Post
    Amulet's change is senseless imho.
    This way it is still usable for rush mages (especially Aramia, but also Loest), but totally useless for other mages, like Majiya and Raikka that would need it.
    Ythan ability buff is ok, but it doesn't remove it's main weakness, the lack of board impact. It will be easier to buff him with good hasted allies in future though. At least moonstalker and tala are not autoloss anymore.
    I'm also wondering why Raikka wasn't buffed.
    The change to Dagger of Fate was needed because of that annoying rush Aramia, but Zaladar should have something back. Brimstone devourer ha been nerfed, Soulbound Armor has been nerfed, Krygon has been nerfed, Harbinger has been nerfed, Cutlass has been removed from his pool, Dagger has been nerfed. Zaladar player must be very angry these days...
    It's called Karma.

    Besides, discard Zal remains a solid archetype with room to grow with set 4.
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    Obviously attempting to buff Prax and Nerf Zal at the same time, which is nearly impossible unless hero specific card are introduced.

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