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    Agree that most things are balanced at the moment, or at least there are a variety is T1 decks thy at are competitive. Would still like to see some tweaking to a few cards that really push the envelope power-wise tough.

    My immediate hit list remains largely unchanged:

    Bloodpack shaman
    Amulet of conjuring
    Harbinger of the lost
    Rampant krygon

    Unlikely any of the will see change at this point but I see them as meta-twisting influences.

    Superheroes: superman is Like millstalker, OP but pretty much folds to a kryptonie hard counter. A little kryptonie dust in his coffee and bam - instant terminal illness for big blue. For the ultimate ironic twist, you couldn't even cut him open to get it out either thanks to the whole man of steel thing! Dude would have to lazer eyes his own stomach open to get that sht out!

    Also, how does he shave? Dude should have a full on Taliban beard and matching Afro by now.

    The flash is OP. Even big blue ain't quick enough to hit him - he basically stops time when he gets his run on. He doesn't need any other power really, you have any idea what a guy swinging a baseball bat at you at 1000 mph looks like. Red mist and on top of that he's swiped your wallet before your twitching legs have even hit the ground! His only real counter is Chuck Norris but that dudes to busy bow flexing to bother with mr red
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    I'm wondering why Aldon wasn't discussed that much in SE's history. I mean, the whole pre-SF metagame was built around Aldon and what could kill with him or survive his buffed friends.

    He was often identified as a centerpiece of the game, but there weren't many cries of OPness.

    It was him that made rush Elad possible but he didn't receive a lot of the hate Eladwen got.

    I'm not saying he was hoping, but he was definitely meta-defining.
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    I'm guessing it's because his main feature is that he makes other cards better but needs an established board to do anything of real value. By himself he's just a weaker jasmine.

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    I personally hate Aldon...I find him both very strong and very boring (or at least tired of seeing him in like 2/3 of human decks - sorry to anyone who is counting exactly) as a card. OP or not, he's already well established, so we just have to deal with him.
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    I really don't mind there being staple cards like Aldon. He's certainly in most Human decks, but he doesn't end a match when he's played. Especially alone :P.

    Same goes for Krygon in particular. No denying it shows up in a lot of decks and for good reason, but I still think it's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamebringer View Post
    I really don't mind there being staple cards like Aldon. He's certainly in most Human decks, but he doesn't end a match when he's played. Especially alone :P.

    Same goes for Krygon in particular. No denying it shows up in a lot of decks and for good reason, but I still think it's fine.
    Exactly. The meta will always be defined by some cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDL View Post
    Exactly. The meta will always be defined by some cards.
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    Can i get a foil card of bad santa with billy bob thorton as a reward for starting a thread with 77 replies thus far (and an awesome design idea for new bad santa)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCRO View Post
    Hmm...
    TBH, everything seems kinda balanced to me. Even the Harbringer; it can miss an ally and then you wasted 2cc for useless ally (well, relatively useless) and depending on its mill, it can be a major screwup (I like when playing Vic and they just mill me that Gambit... 3 ).
    There are good cards and good heroes, there are bad cards and bad heroes (relatively). But in the end, there is no single hero or a single card that is so powerful that it would define the entire metagame because of it beeing too powerful.
    Actually Aramia is strongly defining the meta now. Bobross' article on Zhanna is very clear about it.
    It's not that Aramia is strictly OP, I don't think she is,but she wins consistently with a good amount of previously popular decks and this is very bad for the qm meta.
    In tournaments she's less used because it's basically a noob deck, but the problem exists.
    Quote Originally Posted by FDL View Post
    I'm wondering why Aldon wasn't discussed that much in SE's history. I mean, the whole pre-SF metagame was built around Aldon and what could kill with him or survive his buffed friends.

    He was often identified as a centerpiece of the game, but there weren't many cries of OPness.

    It was him that made rush Elad possible but he didn't receive a lot of the hate Eladwen got.

    I'm not saying he was hoping, but he was definitely meta-defining.
    Aldon is a great card imo.
    He is very powerful in many decks but he doesn't pass the OP line... He's just standing there, close to it, watching other cards come through and laughing at them XD
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