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    Quote Originally Posted by bobrossw View Post
    So what's the problem that needs to be fixed here?
    He already stated it in his opening post; the durability is too low for a 7 cc weapon. He compared it to other weapons that cost less but have the same attack and a higher durability.

    I can agree to a certain extent and if I had to make a suggestion for the DT it would be to reduce the cost to 6 cc. But on the other hand this weapon is extremely powerful against allies and can help you gain board control better than other bows can so maybe 7 cc is a justified cost.
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    It doesn't have lower attack vs allies. It has 3 attack and as I said allies with 1 up dies without loosing durability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by segalion View Post
    It doesn't have lower attack vs allies. It has 3 attack and as I said allies with 1 up dies without loosing durability.
    Well, 2 atk plus 1 ping is much different than having 3 atk. Its a shame that even a 7cc weapon still has trouble with garg.

    I say keep everything how it is with Emore Crossbow, but make the 1 damage that it deals unpreventable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ness View Post
    He already stated it in his opening post; the durability is too low for a 7 cc weapon. He compared it to other weapons that cost less but have the same attack and a higher durability.

    I can agree to a certain extent and if I had to make a suggestion for the DT it would be to reduce the cost to 6 cc. But on the other hand this weapon is extremely powerful against allies and can help you gain board control better than other bows can so maybe 7 cc is a justified cost.
    I think we mostly agree, but I was trying to point out that the OP had already acknowledged that only Baduruu really uses this weapon, and the reason Baduruu uses it is because he can cast it for 4SE, which is very strong. So when we talk about balancing it, it shouldn't just be CC, durability and power that are considered, but also the common usage of it, in which it does not cost 7cc, but rather 4SE. 4 dmg per hit to allies and ablaze is very strong for 4SE. Buffing the durability runs the risk of making it OP for Baduruu, which is the only usage of it to begin with. So it doesn't address the issue of no other hunters use this weapon, it just makes the few decks that can make it very strong, much stronger.

    When balancing hunter weapons or wulven allies, both CC cost and SE cost (for Baduruu and Bloodfang) need to be considered in the equation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobrossw View Post
    I think we mostly agree, but I was trying to point out that the OP had already acknowledged that only Baduruu really uses this weapon, and the reason Baduruu uses it is because he can cast it for 4SE, which is very strong. So when we talk about balancing it, it shouldn't just be CC, durability and power that are considered, but also the common usage of it, in which it does not cost 7cc, but rather 4SE. 4 dmg per hit to allies and ablaze is very strong for 4SE. Buffing the durability runs the risk of making it OP for Baduruu, which is the only usage of it to begin with. So it doesn't address the issue of no other hunters use this weapon, it just makes the few decks that can make it very strong, much stronger.

    When balancing hunter weapons or wulven allies, both CC cost and SE cost (for Baduruu and Bloodfang) need to be considered in the equation.
    I can agree with this

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