All Purpose Deck Theory

[Lahiri]

4 SEB is crazy!
I've never seen any BB playing SEB tbh, they use Soul Seeker against mages.
I see a lot of SEB in rogue decks because they have no heal

[Airact]

20%... 80%... tier 2.... tier 1... 1 or 2 LLNs... 4 Spelleater Bands... Where do you even get these from?

Seconded. I don't see why anybody would run 2 LLN in any deck ever and that's probably the least interesting one.

[jlbjork]

4 spell eaters was an exaggeration. But don't take my word for it. Take any 40 competition Majiya deck and run it 10 games against any competition BB deck that uses spell eaters. See how many games you win in the set. Then turn around and take that same Majiya deck and run it 10 times against a competition grade MS deck. This will confirm my point.

OR

Save yourself some time and say, "gee, the dude is hovering around a 300 rating with a tier 2 hero running 52 cards in his deck - maybe there is something to this..."

[Pteronophobic Wizard]

I agree that strong decks are usually like this. Shadow era has a lot of rock paper scissors going on. But I think that in general you are better off reading the meta properly and picking a hero that will be strong in the match ups that you are likely to get.

I understand the idea of winning 60% against a good match up and 50% against a bad match up, instead of 80% against good and 20% against bad is appealing, but if you pick a hero that will run into good match ups a lot more than bad match ups then the 80-20 split is better. That's why reading the meta is important.

[d31m]

To help me test this theory, if you wish, you may post a good tournament deck on this thread (perhaps one that is already well known), along with its good matchups and bad matchups, and together lets endeavor to find the add ons that will fill those holes without compromising the integrity of the deck.

Okay, following is Bobwei's Discard Zaladar deck that topped the rankings for season 20.

He said that in his experience, bad match-ups for the deck are Moonstalker and anything using Soul Seeker.

Zaladar

Allies 20
4 Harbringer of the Lost
4 Brimstone Devourer
4 Falseblood Cultist
4 Rampat Krygon
4 Reactory

Abilities 10
2 Soul Reaper
4 Mind Control
4 Shadow Font
1 Eternal Renewal

Item 10
4 Animater
2 Living Armor
4 Dagger of Fate

41 cards + hero

What would you suggest adding? He does say in the original thread that he doesn't find that he needs item destruction that often, but if Soul Seeker is a problem for the deck then perhaps Lay Line Nexus/Acid Jet, and Nocturnal Advantage against Moonstalker. I guess the way to test it would be like you say, to play a bunch of games first unaltered, then with any additional cards.

Let us know how it goes

[jlbjork]

Great post. I'll get working on it ASAP.

[oggtheman]

Heya. Here is my Threbin boomerang. It seems to be having problems with everything, so can you fix it with your theory? Thanks.

DECK NAME: Australian outback
***HERO***
Therebin The Righteos

***Allies (17)***
4x Jasmine Rosecult
1x Puwen Bloodhelm
4x Aldon the Brave
4x Priest of the Light
4x Devoted Knight

***Abilities (10)***
4x Tidal Wave
2x Focused Prayer
4x Bad Santa

***Items (8)***
4x Glass Chalice of Knowing
4x Aldmor Accelerator

***Weapons (4)***
4x Boooomerang

TOTAL: 39 cards + Hero

Lol

[bobrossw]

What would you suggest adding? He does say in the original thread that he doesn't find that he needs item destruction that often, but if Soul Seeker is a problem for the deck then perhaps Lay Line Nexus/Acid Jet, and Nocturnal Advantage against Moonstalker. I guess the way to test it would be like you say, to play a bunch of games first unaltered, then with any additional cards.

Let us know how it goes

I'm not sure that's the best test for this concept - starting with a top-ranked deck, it's very easy to bring it down with changes, much harder to improve it. A better deck to test would be something with some very strong matchups and other very poor ones.

[jlbjork]

Heya. Here is my Threbin boomerang. It seems to be having problems with everything, so can you fix it with your theory? Thanks.

Ok - might need a little more info here... Be more specific about the vulnerabilities - "everything" is kind of broad. I'll see what I can do - but a little more specifics would be helpful.

[oggtheman]

Ok - might need a little more info here... Be more specific about the vulnerabilities - "everything" is kind of broad. I'll see what I can do - but a little more specifics would be helpful.

Lol I was joking. My threbin deck is terrible. It consistently loses against every player above 100 rating. You don't have to do anything for it.