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    maybe it just needs a few retools and it might just be worth something.

    I now see Oliver Fagin is getting alot more play now. Ive liked him since is first Art work lol

    how do you guys feel about him now that hes tends to get alot more play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanRogue View Post
    maybe it just needs a few retools and it might just be worth something.

    I now see Oliver Fagin is getting alot more play now. Ive liked him since is first Art work lol

    how do you guys feel about him now that hes tends to get alot more play?
    Yes he became viable with the buff and also has great artwork now. He works in this deck as a gamechanger since the most time you play him you have a full hand and he can swing for 7/8 with haste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxi1230 View Post
    Yes he became viable with the buff and also has great artwork now. He works in this deck as a gamechanger since the most time you play him you have a full hand and he can swing for 7/8 with haste.
    Have you tried out Mystic of the Vale like mentioned in an earlier post? Would be nice late game combo - Drop MoV with Zailen Crusader out, use SE ability on MoV, drop attachment and attack, then use ability to bounce and attack with MoV. Also can bounce Coercion as well. Maybe include 2 and try it out?
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    I think 2-3 Zealous Mystic would be good. It lets you get a second boosted up attack out of Backstab and ALR, and it removes Captured Prey, etc from Irina.

    Oliver Fagan is so good in this deck I'm kind of wondering if it makes sense to drop -1 Coercion and do 3 copies of each instead of 4 Coercion/ 2 Oliver.

    Also, I wonder if going down to 3 copies of Confluence would still work all right, with all the cantrips in this deck it seems like you would probably still draw it early enough to be useful. I've noticed in testing this that the loss of life can be problematic, so much so that I don't usually drop Confluence on my second turn unless I have a particularly attachment-heavy hand to support it. I think it's better to sculpt a hand, and then drop Confluence and go off for a few consecutive turns to create an overwhelming lead and mitigate the loss of life. It's particularly for this reason that I feel like you could safely go down to 3 copies... What do y'all think?

    And one more thing: do you think adding 2-3 Stop Thief! might be a good idea? Seems to me like Snow Sapphire or similar armors might be a real problem...

    EDIT: I could see maybe going down to 2 Final Flourish maybe as well... And maybe adding a Growing Bog-Dweller?
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    Aha, I've spied on maxi playing this deck before. Irina + Lance + Backstab + Silent Strike is to die for.

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    I've been making tweaks and twists on this deck and its meta worthy except with Badurru which is basically an autoloss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBlitz View Post
    I've been making tweaks and twists on this deck and its meta worthy except with Badurru which is basically an autoloss.
    Hmm. I actually think Baduruu is one of my better matchup but I way more allies than maxi. Playing an ally and clearing their board everyturn makes it hard for them to get kills off of their 3 attack weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDL View Post
    Hmm. I actually think Baduruu is one of my better matchup but I way more allies than maxi. Playing an ally and clearing their board everyturn makes it hard for them to get kills off of their 3 attack weapons.
    I suppose I can playtest your deck as well but yeah mostly its the lack of allies that tend to shoot this deck in the foot. Other than that its pretty solid
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBlitz View Post
    I suppose I can playtest your deck as well but yeah mostly its the lack of allies that tend to shoot this deck in the foot. Other than that its pretty solid
    I actually added 3 seductress and 1 Oliver now and took out the heal.

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