Balance Changes for 2.87

[maskee]

1) GR nerf isnt enough, few hps for boardcontrol? All heroes without board wipe (Tidal and Nova) will loose to undeads, Zal and BB has chance bcs of direct damage to hero.

2) DfA - not bad nerf, but force people to play wulven only!

3) Bloodpack Shaman - basicly its nerf to non wulven decks and buff to wulven decks -> force players to play wulven only!

2+3 = if you want to play Moonstalker -> play wulven or undead -> you killed my Dances with Tigers and other mix builds.

4) NOBODY WILL EVER CHOOSE SF IN MELTDOWN !!! too much tribal cards which is almost unplayable in mix decks!!! - whole SF is too much about tribes, I am affraid about non tribal decks especially on shadow side.

to Rivozzz: I don´t care about Fortified Wisp in Talas builds, Tala was autowin for MS (I had 11:1 with my SF Dances with Tigers against her). So now she has some small chance. Btw Tiger Wulf can easily deal with her protector (3cc) than kill another ally by attack and than you can use NyM (2cc) to clear the board... If you play spectral sabre... you cant loose :-) Vision of Endia will be nice card in MS I think.

[Lahiri]

4) NOBODY WILL EVER CHOOSE SF IN MELTDOWN !!! too much tribal cards which is almost unplayable in mix decks!!! - whole SF is too much about tribes, I am affraid about non tribal decks especially on shadow side.

That's a good point, but in fact most cards are playable outside tribal decks and overall level of SF is better than DP.

[4Ak]

That's a good point, but in fact most cards are playable outside tribal decks and overall level of SF is better than DP.

...what he is sayin is that there are way too many cards that actually ARE limited to certain tribes, which makes choosing SF booster for MD game too risky for competitive players who aim for Top10 in MD-week

...which i completely agree with, i dont pick SF boosters in MD, apart from when i just play for fun

[Fionn Maccumhail]

I disagree, SF is the second set of boosters I turn to in MD (COTC will always be the base) and last time I played I was 3rd that week.

[4Ak]

I disagree, SF is the second set of boosters I turn to in MD (COTC will always be the base) and last time I played I was 3rd that week.

..respect, i guess it then comes down to personal preference

4Ak out
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[LucasBlitz]

How to nerf Grave Resistance: All COMBAT damage to undead allies is reduced by 1. Tadaaah.

[Heidrek Rampant]

Not going to help much. The big problem is that it makes undead able to win all early ally battles and control the board. If you want to really nerf it thenake it only work on ability damage, but that would make it unplayable.

Just make the sustain cost 2 hp so it actually make a meaningful difference or 1 SE so it's not an auto play on t2 in undeads

[maskee]

How to nerf Grave Resistance: All COMBAT damage to undead allies is reduced by 1. Tadaaah.

That will help those poor heroes like Zaladar, Banebow and mages... hmmm no. Game desperately needs ways to reduce ability damage.
I prefere 1cc or even more... it still will be wery good card.

[Rivozzz]

That will help those poor heroes like Zaladar, Banebow and mages... hmmm no. Game desperately needs ways to reduce ability damage.
I prefere 1cc or even more... it still will be wery good card.

Solution is very easy... Add your allies lose stealth

[maskee]

I disagree, SF is the second set of boosters I turn to in MD (COTC will always be the base) and last time I played I was 3rd that week.

What is your win rate. I am 73% at 3CotC/1DP and at 61% at 2/1/1

No one will ever choose SF in MD tournament. Biggest % of unplayable cards.