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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy Striker View Post
    Hi Gondorian, opp has fortified wisp. I attach vision of endia onto F Wisp. then cast lightning strike. how much damage should the wisp take?
    Am i right to think that F Wisp should have been killed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy Striker View Post
    Am i right to think that F Wisp should have been killed?
    If I'm not mistaken, attachments trigger after the ally they're attached to no matter who controls the attachment.

    When you try to deal damage with Lightning Strike, the game will look for relevant triggers. It will check your Hero, your allies and your item/abilities. I do not think it will trigger the Vision of Endia at that point.

    Then the game will move on to your opponent Hero and allies. Here Fortified Wisp will reduce the damage by 2 (down to 1), then his attachments will trigger so VoE will double the damage (up to 2).

    Garth, when he is the active Hero, should trigger before your opponent's allies so the damage gets doubled before any damage reduction can be applied.

    I'd be interested to see what happens during Garth's opponent's turn.
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    Bug List - 2.86

    Quote Originally Posted by FDL View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, attachments trigger after the ally they're attached to no matter who controls the attachment.

    When you try to deal damage with Lightning Strike, the game will look for relevant triggers. It will check your Hero, your allies and your item/abilities. I do not think it will trigger the Vision of Endia at that point.

    Then the game will move on to your opponent Hero and allies. Here Fortified Wisp will reduce the damage by 2 (down to 1), then his attachments will trigger so VoE will double the damage (up to 2).

    Garth, when he is the active Hero, should trigger before your opponent's allies so the damage gets doubled before any damage reduction can be applied.

    I'd be interested to see what happens during Garth's opponent's turn.
    You are right. We have to use SRO to apply modifiers to damage because there are cases that are not simple addition/subtraction. On Garth's opponent's turn, Wisp's reduction will happen before his doubling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDL View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, attachments trigger after the ally they're attached to no matter who controls the attachment.

    When you try to deal damage with Lightning Strike, the game will look for relevant triggers. It will check your Hero, your allies and your item/abilities. I do not think it will trigger the Vision of Endia at that point.

    Then the game will move on to your opponent Hero and allies. Here Fortified Wisp will reduce the damage by 2 (down to 1), then his attachments will trigger so VoE will double the damage (up to 2).

    Garth, when he is the active Hero, should trigger before your opponent's allies so the damage gets doubled before any damage reduction can be applied.

    I'd be interested to see what happens during Garth's opponent's turn.
    But Vision of Endia was changed so that it specifically says the damage can't be reduced or prevented. So when the Fortified wisp's ability is triggered, shouldn't Endia cancel this before the damage is prevented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobrossw View Post
    But Vision of Endia was changed so that it specifically says the damage can't be reduced or prevented. So when the Fortified wisp's ability is triggered, shouldn't Endia cancel this before the damage is prevented?
    Mind you this is on the 2.86 thread, the updated version of VoE is x1122881983636 times better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucasBlitz View Post
    Mind you this is on the 2.86 thread, the updated version of VoE is x1122881983636 times better.
    Updated VoE makes all this irrelevant, yes. Only Garth to worry about for working out the order of your calculations.

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    Thanks for the update

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