Balance Changes for 2.86

[bobrossw]

@ bob stop telling me to relax at this point in a real life conversation it would have gone from us calmly discussing to me smacking you with something heavy for being an ass. I am allowed to voice my opinion whether you agree with it or not. It comes down to you think they are ok, but I think they need a solid t2 drop. When I call for blood then you can tell me to relax.

hah! In that scenario, while you were assaulting me, I'd be trying to block and calmly asking you to calm down and use your words...I literally do that for a living

You have some great points about balance and shaking things up at the top tier, but we also need to test stuff before changing the changes. That's all I meant by 'relax' - but sorry to offend. It's impossible to predict what new deck concepts are going to be made competitive by the combination of many little changes that have been made to shadow as a whole as well as mages, warriors and rogues. I don't know if tribal ravagers will be solid, but looking at the cards individually and in certain combinations, I see a lot of potential. I'm not the one actively testing those cards in decks though, so I could be wrong...then again, you haven't tested them yet either.

Regarding Gnodab's point about overbalancing: I do know that I have twice today played against 250+ ranked Tala players who repeatedly played guys with 1 attack (e.g., kristoff), and then buffed them before attacking my Black Garb. Something seems off about that to me.

[jcbow]

250 and higher is pretty easy to hit early season even if you don't exactly know what your doing. I watch more games than I play and you would be surprised at just how many things similar to that you see on a regular basis. I also agree ravagers have a lot of potential. We shall see what happens when the update hits.

[Shadows R Us]

I There is no way the DT can change this and it is mute to constantly cry for nerfs or buffs to address this.

Moot

[gnodab]

Moot

oh! thanks.

[Sprinkles]

oh! thanks.

but moot just sounds silly even if it is technically right... stick to your guns gnodab!

the dictionary follows US, not the other way around!

[chamthabo]

Really like FF change!!!

Things that can be blocked...
Fireball, Soul reaper, Mimic, Reverberate, CP, BF, Assassination, Garth's concoction, Zail's hymn, Focused prayer, TH, RLT, Speed strike.

[Shadow Mann]

I think some of these changes were needed, but fatebreak familiar was already decidedly better than puwen and this buff seems unnecessary to me. Any explanation as to why the buff?

[Twio]

I would use Puwen over FF any day because Puwen doesn't sh!t himself and die when my opponent plays an ability. FF is so easy to play around.

Really like FF change!!!

Things that can be blocked...
Fireball, Soul reaper, Mimic, Reverberate, CP, BF, Assassination, Garth's concoction, Zail's hymn, Focused prayer, TH, RLT, Speed strike.

Great, more reasons not to use DC.

[Necrice]

Heh i think we can forget DC. They ve been constantly indirectly nerfing him by buffing and giving new toys to other heroes.

[Zeuhl]

Really like FF change!!!

Things that can be blocked...
Fireball, Soul reaper, Mimic, Reverberate, CP, BF, Assassination, Garth's concoction, Zail's hymn, Focused prayer, TH, RLT, Speed strike.

Don't forget blood frenzy