Balance Changes for 2.86

[Fionn Maccumhail]

Yes, the turn you activated it by using 1D.

1D? Hmm that's going to be a pretty damn weak draw engine for 3CC unless the durability is pretty damn high. And if the engine isn't worthwhile Raikka and flaming knife are going to remain underpowered.

Most changes seem good, although I still can't see why you would choose Pride over KP even in a Yari deck unless playing against other warriors. KP's extra health makes a big difference in how it can be played.

Of other changes, brimstone change is unnecessary and rapacious needs the ability to target attachments rather than an attack buff IMO.

[Lahiri]

All in all I think some of the changes were to pacify the moaners. Zal was strong but nowhere near as OP as everyone was saying imo. He had his bad matchups. But the "nerf" to LA isnt that big if a deal to me. I think the nerf to Brimstone was unwarranted.

LA nerf was due, it makes a lot more sense now. Armor defense = ally defense.
Brimstone was ok, but as I don't like discard mechanic I can't say I don't like the nerf.
Krygon is still TOO strong and auto-include in every Shadow deck imho.
Haste is abused in SF and hasted ally should have a drawback to be balanced. For example Ravager Zealot is perfectly fine, Krygon isn't.
Do you remember Lightning Hunter? It had huge drawbacks but still it was good and used in many Wulven decks... Krygon has no drawbacks and it makes it OP imho.
In DP a 4hp ally for 3cc was good and could survive the turn, now with Krygon (and other hasted allies, but mainly RK) it's almost impossible for it to survive the turn. Now you play almost only 5hp allies for 3cc because it's the only way to keep the board. Look at Cleric of Asyn buff.

[bobrossw]

Fates 172 Cloak of Phasing: Replaced with “3cc - Flameforged Gauntlets - Mage/Hunter - 1def/4dur - 1D: If an opposing hero or ally was dealt fire damage this turn, draw a card."

Just a thought - this does almost nothing for human hunters, since there are very few ways for human hunters to deal fire damage during their turn (burning damage is done on opposing player's turn). It may make this more useful if it included poison and fire damage, and if it included the opponent's last turn. This would then apply nicely to human hunters and Skervox.

[fyrfytr998]

Bye Bye Hamber? I thought this deck wasn't a strong as folks claim it to be?

Other than I like what I see so far. I would just expect a glut of Warrior QQ's to ensue. Good call on replacing Oliver's art work. It seriously looked like a female witch.

[Lahiri]

Hammer is made for Logan (and Rothem maybe?) so it's fine that it can't be used by Amber. She already has war flail which is perfect for her.

[Rivozzz]

If some one has deep insight...the whole meta have been changed like no other...
Back to point zero..all builds should be revised..this is major mega huge changes

[User Name]

SK? Shawn kennedy??
http://preybirdart.deviantart.com/ar...ivor-409993082

kinda looks like Oliver's hands....

No! Please no!!

[pjoe0211]

will darkforged knifes ability work with both attacks or just the first cause it goes to the grave yard after the 2nd attack, if it only works once i consider this a nerf not a buff, not that the card mattered at all

[Gondorian]

will darkforged knifes ability work with both attacks or just the first cause it goes to the grave yard after the 2nd attack, if it only works once i consider this a nerf not a buff, not that the card mattered at all

Both, since it triggers and resolves when combat damage is dealt.

[Rivozzz]

Brimstone is massive nerfed to be not playable at all... Needs revising or I don't know now!!!!
I mean it will hugley affect other elementals with zaldaar as elementalis and praxix
Don't know if that is good or not..it maybe good it is nerfed...but the question is will it be played or not..