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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylt View Post
    But then Rothem can do better with the exact same deck list...
    I highly doubt he can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kylt View Post
    But then Rothem can do better with the exact same deck list...
    Given Rothems ability is even slower than Logan's and doesn't guarantee a kill, I find this one tricky to believe. This deck is geared toward maximising Logan and covering his weaknesses so it won't be as effective with another Shadow Warrior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gondorian View Post
    This is great to hear. I hope people who wrote Logan off have found this thread. Oh, wait ...

    p.s. Is there hope for the other seemingly weaker heroes too?
    Gondorian, this is really great to hear, but you must admit the weaker heros need more than just 1 good lucky deck or in this case, one really good and probably OP card, and i really hope next expansion can give them the rest they need....

    The deck looks strong, i like the Cultist discarting hammer combo nice way to get the hammer in play faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snipnigth View Post
    Gondorian, this is really great to hear, but you must admit the weaker heros need more than just 1 good lucky deck or in this case, one really good and probably OP card, and i really hope next expansion can give them the rest they need....
    I agree with you, but the deck search space is larger than we could hope to cover in such a short amount of time. There could be other great decks out there, as-yet-undiscovered. Probably not, you might say, and let's assume you're right ...

    Maybe the weaker heroes can become good meta-calls for the pros to pick up at the right time, whilst others always overlook and underestimate them, therefore lacking practise against them. Not convinced? OK, let's try ...

    Having some weaker heroes is good for the game, since the game is not just about whether you win or not. Some people really like the challenge of trying to make them work despite them being weaker. I tend to go to them by default when choosing my next deck to make because I naturally avoid proven decks and heroes. I can't be the only one?

    That's not to say we won't try to engineer cards in future sets to help out the weaker heroes, as we did for Victor in this set.

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    You do have a point, and im one of those that likes the challenge but its just so hard to climb the ladder with the weaker heros in SE its almost unfair for them..... Probably im just kind of sore seeing that all my favorite Heros are weak (Serena, Ythan, GB, and Raikka) i really got kind of sad when i saw Garth haha...but GB really got a real nice boost and i TY guys for that, and i hope to see more surprises in the future for the weaker heros .
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    Yo Preybird, can i make a request? ummm could you try and make a strong Ythan deck? without using a twilight heavy deck? i tried something here: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....d-suggestions) with Midnight Sentinel and the deck seems to be doing good but not too sure...this is totally off topic so i apologies for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by snipnigth View Post
    Yo Preybird, can i make a request? ummm could you try and make a strong Ythan deck? without using a twilight heavy deck? i tried something here: http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....d-suggestions) with Midnight Sentinel and the deck seems to be doing good but not too sure...this is totally off topic so i apologies for that
    Alright I'll have a play around. I think Sentinel is a good way to go too.
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    Hey preybird, have been toying around with logan.

    I have found the solution..to make him tier 1 maybe..
    Your main problem is viska, tala and MS right? as you said before

    You need YAri markshman and you dont need much KP

    Here are my suggestions

    ***HERO***
    Logan Stonebreaker

    ***Allies (20)***

    4x Yari Bladedancer

    2x Death Mage Thaddeus
    4x Rampant Krygon
    3x Morbid Acolyte

    4x Falseblood Cultist
    3x Yari Marksman


    ***Abilities (12)***
    2x Smashing Blow

    4x Crippling Blow
    1x Enrage
    1x Rampage

    4x Blood Frenzy

    ***Items (3)***
    3x Reserve Weapon

    ***Weapons (4)***
    4x Lythian Sledgehammer

    TOTAL: 39 cards + Hero

    If you wanna go 40 you can add only 1KP or 1 Brax veteren


    The thing is CP + markshaman to board look down , with Boosted Logan hammer and with Rapid board hasters
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    this is a great deck

    both preybird initial deck and rivozzz update

    how about replacing sledge for JD? just tested the change and the tempo boost is great not mention u can already boost JD woth RW

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    My testing showed that to beat Zaladar you need Kings Pride. Marksman is worthless in that MU and can actually backfire greatly with MC.

    I guess it comes down to meta call. Before adding MA I had Hulk in there. He works really well with Bladedancer and Kings Pride and is good vs Moonstalker. His 6hp makes him quite durable. Between his advantage and Marskman I decided for middle ground in MA.

    Last variation:

    ***HERO***
    Logan Stonebreaker

    ***Allies (19)***
    3x Death Mage Thaddeus
    2x Morbid Acolyte
    4x Rampant Krygon
    2x Brimstone Devourer
    4x Falseblood Cultist
    4x Yari Bladedancer

    ***Abilities (10)***
    1x Enrage
    4x Crippling Blow
    1x Rampage
    4x Blood Frenzy

    ***Items (2)***
    2x Reserve Weapon

    ***Armors (2)***
    2x The King's Pride

    ***Weapons (6)***
    2x War Flail
    4x Lythian Sledgehammer

    TOTAL: 39 cards + Hero

    So far around 65% win rate at 290 rating.

    As I said before no item dest. I only regret not having Shriek for stuff like WotF, Glass CHalisee, Antimatter, but 1 resource cost is too much. As for weapons and armors I just beat on them with my own weapon and Krygons.
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