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    Let talk about All Hope is Lost !

    Target opposing hero takes 5 unpreventable damage if its controller's deck is empty.
    Draw a card and then place All Hope is Lost on the bottom of your deck.

    Infinit unbreakable loop , can deal damage = max resource *5 when your deck and opponant deck empty.
    Anyone?
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    It's all about timing I think. To use that OTK loop, all you need is ...

    1.Opponent deck is empty.
    2.All of the cards remaining in your deck must be All Hope is Lost.
    3.You have at least one All Hope is Lost in your hand.
    Please correct me if I say something wrong.

    The difficult requirement to meet, in my opinion, is #2. Let's think your opponent deck is already empty but he has a bunch of guys ready to kill you in the next one or two turn. Then you look at your deck, there are still 6 cards left and you are sure 2 cards at the bottom is All Hope is Lost. If you don't have any means to discard other cards reach them in time or stall your opponent until the time come, you are screwed. But if all thing go as planned, that is WTF moment for your opponent. I think to rely on this scary combo, you must build your entire deck to support this strategy.

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    Somewhat difficult to get the loop off, but if you do, ouch for your opponent. It's definitely a much better card now that it does at least return itself, since now you can use it in the earlier game as a 1cc cantrip draw and just return it to the bottom of your deck for when the opponent's deck is actually empty.
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    just my 2 cent:

    if u lost to this card, that mean ur deck is to slow
    to tech agains All Hope is Lost, you can just add 10 more cards to ur deck. But I recommend u to tweak ur deck to speed up it up.
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    ty for your opinion i will add 1 Prismatic Field to counter Plaxix+this card
    same as 1 no where to hide for moonstalker.
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    My bigger problem with all Praxix thing is Soul Reaper. You can not get rid of all his allies on the graveyard due to discarding which opens up a possibility for complete healing late game and than it is too late...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veles View Post
    My bigger problem with all Praxix thing is Soul Reaper. You can not get rid of all his allies on the graveyard due to discarding which opens up a possibility for complete healing late game and than it is too late...
    Then he casts er because he milling himself and....oops has no on discard allies or any allies for his ability.
    A prax that soul reaped just gave you the game imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misanthropic View Post
    Then he casts er because he milling himself and....oops has no on discard allies or any allies for his ability.
    A prax that soul reaped just gave you the game imo.
    Except if hes about to run dry in the next couple of turns then BAM! AHIL loop.

    Soul Reaper is meant to give him enough life to survive until you both run out of deck. Rest assured he has 2 AHIL in hand when he does it. It's an integral part of the strategy.
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    Also AHIL loop is easier than you think to achieve. Just have two in hand when your deck runs out. Easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preybird View Post
    Also AHIL loop is easier than you think to achieve. Just have two in hand when your deck runs out. Easy.
    You'll have to hope Praxix's ability doesn't discard either of them to graveyard

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