Improving Vess' ability

[Airact]

I don't think the hero ability is the problem.

[ipoop245]

I don't think the hero ability is the problem.

It's probably the limited card pool the problem here , just like how there are only few things to use Aramia's ability on when you are not playing a wisp or tribe deck

[Skurai]

I have been playing Vess for about a week... and while fun, I find that she falls behind due to her ability. While spammable, it tends to empty your hand fast. With all the ways to get of rid of attachments and allies, I find that Vess just needs a little tweak to help her ability to control.
I thought that one of the 2 options below could possibly improve Vess' competitiveness.

Option #1
3SE: Until the end of your turn, your attachments cost 3 less resources to summon. For each attachment summoned this turn, target opposing hero or ally takes 1 damage. (To maximum of 2)

Option #2
3SE: Until the end of your turn, your attachments cost 3 less resources to summon. For each attachment summoned this turn, target friendly hero or ally heals 1 damage. (To maximum of 2)

What do you guys think?

I think that would be overpowered and everyone would play vess. He's fine the way he is, I would just change the art. lol
I have a different vess decks and they all kick ass, lots of cards played, lots of draw lots of fun.
You probably need a better build if it ain't working for you, no offense intended.

If anything I would add a card like 'eternal renewal' to the warrior card pool cause I go through my deck so fast Praxis makes a really bad matchup.

when i said u can use Confluence of Fate i mean as a secondary draw engine including Blood Frenzy, no warrior can have a deck without this card

Who said no? I've played warriors without BF lots of times, they work fine... Specially when in tech matches. And now with SF there's lots of draw options.

[Frould]

my idea
3SE: Until the end of your turn, your attachments cost 2 less resources to summon,
the top attachment in your graveyard is returned in to your hand.

[4Ak]

when i said u can use Confluence of Fate i mean as a secondary draw engine including Blood Frenzy, no warrior can have a deck without this card

...uhm, i suggest u check out Birdies Ter Adun from pre-SF (The Gladiator : Spartan 2.0), that was seriously solid deck not using even a single Blood Frenzy and i remember taking it juuuuust in front of the 300 gates. however i would agree the build was quite exceptional ))))

[Daemon Rayge]

my idea
3SE: Until the end of your turn, your attachments cost 2 less resources to summon,
the top attachment in your graveyard is returned in to your hand.

Double sided on this one. It removes the huge tempo gain due to free Blood Frenzy, but also adds more utility.

...uhm, i suggest u check out Birdies Ter Adun from pre-SF (The Gladiator : Spartan 2.0), that was seriously solid deck not using even a single Blood Frenzy and i remember taking it juuuuust in front of the 300 gates. however i would agree the build was quite exceptional ))))

The reason why he did not use Blood Frenzy was because it was a Stall Deck and he cannot afford to be taking unnecessary damage.

[4Ak]

The reason why he did not use Blood Frenzy was because it was a Stall Deck and he cannot afford to be taking unnecessary damage.

...i know Kaos, i was only referring to the comment sayin " no warrior can have a deck without this card [frenzy] " xD and apprently that ain't exactly true stsatement, this is not discussion about WHY there was no BF in Birdie's deck if im not mistaken

peace out

[Veles]

I don't think there is a need for change here. Vess is fine as is. Not exactly tier one deck but it offers unique style of playing that can hurt lot of heroes, but it is also not so good vs deck that have recursion, healing, or abundant of direct damage. A really solid tier 2 deck. Way to improve it is to release new attachments in the future release or more support for its ability (like Brax Veteran).

I am finding really hard to not refer to Vess as she. lol WHY DID THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT BE A MUMMY, when I already had hot sinister warrior chick in my mind.

[Jao]

vess ability is fine. just need that one card to increase survivability.

[Darkloki]

but it is also not so good vs deck that have recursion, healing, or abundant of direct damage. A really solid tier 2 deck. Way to improve it is to release new attachments in the future release or more support for its ability (like Brax Veteran).

So basically:

1. 5 mages
2. 3 wulven
3. Zhanna
4. 5 warriors with rampage
5. Elementals with infinity core

That's a lot of heroes to be "not so good against"......

Look... i'm not saying that Vess is super-weak.... i'm saying that she is in more the DP Jericho position. Instead of having to wait a year for another set to come out that gives her a boost, I figured why not make slight tweak now.