Twilight Shaman!! OP

[Gondorian]

Just still so surprised that the DT has done nothing about Wisp, when it is clearly stronger than CoI ever was, and they nerfed him. Wisp definitely isn't uncounterable, just much stronger than I think is safe to try and maintain a proper balance in the game.

Is Wisp really that good? The DT are still waiting for more live server coverage, which has been stalled by lack of SF in the merchant.

We're ready to make changes if they are required, but it's still too early to make that call. (Sure, it's been like forever, but the pace is about to pick-up on the testing and we will cover a lot of ground.)

[darkCROSSBOW]

no problem!!! we are with the DT and Shadowera!!! I am sure all the players will come back when SF hits merchant, (i mean when can be individually)

[Shadow Mann]

Is Wisp really that good? The DT are still waiting for more live server coverage, which has been stalled by lack of SF in the merchant.

We're ready to make changes if they are required, but it's still too early to make that call. (Sure, it's been like forever, but the pace is about to pick-up on the testing and we will cover a lot of ground.)

to be able to get a 2cc ally to 11/11 or even 13/13 so quickly...yes, it's too good (but, yes, counterable)

[Shadow Mann]

I find this post a little funny because they actually buffed the Shaman. It used to be 1/2 with only a +1 health boost. . . .

well...they have nerfed some things that didn't need a nerf...certainly possible they buff something that shouldn't have been buffed (but we are still in beta...more changes can be made)

[pjoe0211]

Is Wisp really that good? The DT are still waiting for more live server coverage, which has been stalled by lack of SF in the merchant.

We're ready to make changes if they are required, but it's still too early to make that call. (Sure, it's been like forever, but the pace is about to pick-up on the testing and we will cover a lot of ground.)

I have won 2 tournaments using AW and I honestly think the biggest issue with it is the synergy with Bucs, nerfing RLT hurts the decks as well so we will see.

[tman507]

Is Wisp really that good? The DT are still waiting for more live server coverage, which has been stalled by lack of SF in the merchant.

We're ready to make changes if they are required, but it's still too early to make that call. (Sure, it's been like forever, but the pace is about to pick-up on the testing and we will cover a lot of ground.)

I just have to wonder then what kind of coverage and statistics you are waiting for then. Like what stats and coverage where you going by when you nerfed various other cards, for example Falseblood Cultist? What coverage was showing that he was OP at 4 health? If he was OP at 4, he was still nowhere near as ridiculous as Wisp.

Is the whole Wisp thing counterable? Yes. Is it somewhat reliant on the so-called "nut draw"? Sure. But it can still be reliable enough to just do massive damage very easily, especially in decks like Aramia where even if you don't draw Abomination Factory you can always play it from your deck by at least T4. A 2 cost ally that can very easily go to 10+ attack and health is too much, again especially compared to something like Champion of Irum, who is unique and gets capped at 3/5 by his own ability.

[pjoe0211]

I just have to wonder then what kind of coverage and statistics you are waiting for then. Like what stats and coverage where you going by when you nerfed various other cards, for example Falseblood Cultist? What coverage was showing that he was OP at 4 health? If he was OP at 4, he was still nowhere near as ridiculous as Wisp.

Is the whole Wisp thing counterable? Yes. Is it somewhat reliant on the so-called "nut draw"? Sure. But it can still be reliable enough to just do massive damage very easily, especially in decks like Aramia where even if you don't draw Abomination Factory you can always play it from your deck by at least T4. A 2 cost ally that can very easily go to 10+ attack and health is too much, again especially compared to something like Champion of Irum, who is unique and gets capped at 3/5 by his own ability.

I will just say one note because people are bringing up COI so much, his attack is part passive which can be annoying, causes marshland and raven to only take 1 damage away from him, if you hit wisp with raven its 0 attack, so letting COI have a ton of attack as a buff would have been pretty strong, that said, I dont know if he needed to be nerfed so hard

[Ness]

I was also thinking that the buff to twilight shaman was unnecessary. They should revert it back +1 health because +2 health is a bit much for a non-unique 2 cc ally.