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    Last night somebody used a victor build that stomped me into the ground (and I was using a deck that I had got into the 310-320 range) - I was so shamefully stomped it was amazing - I had FTA and had perfect draws and all I managed to do was keep a firesnake out for my first three turns.

    So I made an imitation deck of it guessing what they threw in and found it to be insanely effective, like they had I ended up with a friggin army on my board except for the mage battles I kept messing up the timing of enchanted oak. Looking at Preybird's build I notice the two builds are very different, so Victor is probably more dynamic than what he's been given credit for. I am really liking Victor though, I really can't see why more people don't use him. I suppose like Logan you really have to know what you are doing, ever face off with one of those Logan's ranked over 280?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivozzz View Post
    So now with zalien nerfed and cutlass removed, victor became T2, and ythan became t last..as survialilty of ZAilen was extremely important for ythan.. Actually they should remove ythan from SF.. He is now completely useless hero, even more that the legendary useless hero of all times since DP Logan ...no body will even touch those 2 heroes ythan and Logan ..

    Most of nerfs actually destroyed many of old or new heroes to become tier1.. And now back to our old days back again.. You wanna tier 1..never think twice... play amber, zaladar or rush mages..for a change play banebow... That's Buttom line..

    Try it yourself

    that is very inaccurate.. a victor played prudently can still be tier1. we just have been spoiled by how easy he used to be. we have to wait for the experimentation phase and this meta to settle down to tell who is where.
    and ythan is the new logan.. come on rivozzz!! have you seen him with a buffed templar army?? this guy can rushshsh


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    Quote Originally Posted by highmystica View Post
    keep a firesnake out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirits View Post
    that is very inaccurate.. a victor played prudently can still be tier1. we just have been spoiled by how easy he used to be. we have to wait for the experimentation phase and this meta to settle down to tell who is where.
    and ythan is the new logan.. come on rivozzz!! have you seen him with a buffed templar army?? this guy can rushshsh
    Talking and crafting is a thing and reality is another thing...
    Time will judge..as people became more and more aware by the OP in SF...
    Amber, zaladar, banebow, Nish , Aramia , Garth , MS, (also GB but not all are aware of his OP constructed decks) are the very high tier 1... Everything else comes next

    Victor remains poweful but as tier 2, ythan good but tier 3

    Logan I don't consider him a hero anymore, he is just filling the first page of heroes, other than this you will never ever see him played
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    Having more than 5 tier 1 decks in a meta is very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fou DeLile View Post
    Having more than 5 tier 1 decks in a meta is very good.

    I agree, I actually believe there are 10 heroes in tier one, even Tier 2 hero are extremely competitive...

    But IF all heroes became same power it will be awesome

    But again what we have now is really good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fou DeLile View Post
    Having more than 5 tier 1 decks in a meta is very good.
    It is good.. but as rivozzz said, we have to wait for reality.

    There is too much experimentation going on now. I dont think there wil be as many tier 1 once things settle down. That being said, it looks promising. The bigger the card pool gets, the more the options and counter options.. and the closer decks come to each other


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    I'm pretty sure victor is top tier now. Its nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivozzz View Post
    Talking and crafting is a thing and reality is another thing...
    Time will judge..as people became more and more aware by the OP in SF...
    Amber, zaladar, banebow, Nish , Aramia , Garth , MS, (also GB but not all are aware of his OP constructed decks) are the very high tier 1... Everything else comes next

    Victor remains poweful but as tier 2, ythan good but tier 3

    Logan I don't consider him a hero anymore, he is just filling the first page of heroes, other than this you will never ever see him played
    Curious how u figured out MS is T1. I thought there was only me conceived MS was as good as other T1 heroes
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    MS will be top tier because Zal is top tier.

    Honestly though all this tier talk is kind of crap anyways. Certain BUILDS are top tier. Just a hero doesn't make anything top tier.

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