A cap on AW?

[Veles]

At this point I would prefer to have potentially broken card on live server (with art!) than no cards at all...Until cards are printed there is room for balance changes and I see no reason for this being on beta any more. And seriously what is with art, we get like 5 pics per month and Kickstarter was finished in December. I thought Wulven was buying rights to already existent art. So what's the hold up?

Sorry for derailment.

I said this few times before I don't think Wisp archetype is overpowered atm, but I do think potential to become one may limit what can be done with future sets regarding discard mechanics.

Another suggestion: Limit growing part on controller's turn only.

[ocnarb]

For me AW is a huge NPE, imagine when this go live, lots of players will just start playing it or quit the game. The chance of her god hand is the same as Eladwen, but is harder to stop and deals damage faster, like we didnt Eladwen hate already

I agree with Nik that it will limit future discards mechanics, or maybe make impossible to add new ones.

[Daemon Rayge]

I bet if it was a shadow ally we wouldn't be having this discussion .
Why dont they nerf the"what a big teeth" weapon , unlimited durability.
Imagine how useful a weapon like that would be for amber and other human heroes. But no, only shadows get an 2cc ally that cant be shut down unless 3 damage is dealt to it that early on. Or lets talk about the 4cc wulven ally that takes no combat damage. Is no wonder the meta goes like this
Shadow: banebow,zaladar,mayiya,darkclaw.
Human: ambar,eladwen,

Oh yeah lets not forget how strong the priest are. Hahahahaha
I think everybody that is hating on aetherborn wisp is because they know meta is goin to switch to humans.
wulven has been giving too much power to the shadow side , plss let us have the one allie that might even things out.

Humans have a far stronger early game in general compared to Shadow. Look at all of the 3cc and lower allies in both factions.

[4Ak]

...okay, this thread was originally about 'Cap for AW' - Champion got Cap, so should AW (...for the VERY SAME reason). full stop

[Airact]

- god-rush Elad is strong when she sets up her game, but u can deal with it
- Amber is definitely one tuff nut to crack, but u can deal with her as well
- t2 AW hidden behind t1 Birgitte followed by an insane cycle of Bucaneers is way too much to handle for most decks, yes, it is perfectly possible to deal with it, however by the time most of other decks can PLAY tools that would counter it it usually too late

@Airact - i agree 10/10 is maybe too much, however i just wanted to emphasize how insanely quickly it can grow (..apart from that i just played two games and in first one i got AW to 10/10 and in second 14/14, hidden behind 2x Birgitte)

The deck doesn't really have any way to continue the game after the Wisp (or Wisps, but still). You could stack burn in the deck but then the deck becomes even more polarized (less allies = less things to discard with factory and a higher need for resources). I run 4x Fireball as the sole burn cards in the deck and even those are there because there are no more convenient ways to get rid of allies.

So, while Elad has a worse early-game, it at least has a mid-game. This deck doesn't, which is fine.


I dunno, I play the deck because it's the most fun deck to play in the game. I'm just not one for tedious grinds midrange decks tend to produce.

[4Ak]

Airact, all due respect man, but i don't even run burn spells in mine and its still insanely quick and deadly

[Airact]

Airact, all due respect man, but i don't even run burn spells in mine and its still insanely quick and deadly

It is, but that's the point. It can't run burn, therefore it doesn't have a midgame, therefore it has to be faster than Eladwen to be a playable deck.

[FDL]

...okay, this thread was originally about 'Cap for AW' - Champion got Cap, so should AW (...for the VERY SAME reason). full stop

As someone already mentionned (sorry I forgot who it was and in what thread), CoI is playable and splashable in pretty much any Human deck (and he is a relevant ally from T2 to the end of the game).

AW is a worse Dirk unless you dedicate half your deck to it.

I don't think both allies can be directly compared.

[lorgi]

As someone already mentionned (sorry I forgot who it was and in what thread), CoI is playable and splashable in pretty much any Human deck (and he is a relevant ally from T2 to the end of the game).

AW is a worse Dirk unless you dedicate half your deck to it.

I don't think both allies can be directly compared.

+1
I myself never had any trouble dealing with AW (but I had a really hard time growing it to 5/5)
seriously, what do you guys play that is so weak against AW?

[4Ak]

...well, if no cap is planned for AW, fine by me,...as long as something happens with the deck, either make some of the cards needed for the combo more expensive (...thus it hits one turn later), or make Bucaneer unique (since we already have this awkward card type anyway), but do SOMEthing....please?

...or will 'pretty please with sugar on top and a cherry' work?

..i am really concerned this is going to have negative impact on the game once it hits live and starts gettin 'abused' by people who only care abt being in Top100 with very little effort and are happy to quit before t3 if they dont see their ideal play happening