What do you think is over/underpowered in SF?

[Twio]

Regarding Sword Thief, I find him very playable. If he had Seductress's stats it wouldn't even be a contest.

That being said, the Test Server meta isn't the most competitive environment so all analysis should be taken with a grain of salt...

Also, I haven't played them much but I've been on the receiving end of quite a few Racagers asswhoppings.

It shouldn't be a contest. Would Mages ever consider running Special Delivery over Fireball? Sword Thief should basically be a Rogue auto-include. No class-specific card should be able to be replaced with a faction-specific card imo. Seductress will still see a ton of play in Warriors and Mages.

Both cards are exactly the same except:
-Sword Thief can be used regardless of each player's resources
-Layarian Seductress has +1 health and prevents allies from using activated abilities.

Imo, Seductress is better. She survives Zalblast, Majiya, and most 3cc allies. She stops PB, DMT, Murderous Hulk, Voracious Arachnid and heaps more. And she has boobs. Case closed.


After spending some time using Ravagers, I've decided that they aren't really bad, just a little inconsistent (if you don't draw items) and very hard to play well. Once you get good with them though, they are decent. However, Spitfire Hound is garbage and I wouldn't even think of running him. Maybe if he was a 2/3 so he could be useful if you have no item to destroy, I'd consider. At the moment I'm running Ironhide Karash / Yari Bladedancer depending on what hero I'm using.

[FDL]

It shouldn't be a contest. Would Mages ever consider running Special Delivery over Fireball? Sword Thief should basically be a Rogue auto-include. No class-specific card should be able to be replaced with a faction-specific card imo. Seductress will still see a ton of play in Warriors and Mages.

I don't like this 'class card should be powerful' rule. I know it came from Wulven but still. (it's not even enforced anyways)

Class cards can be powerful (like Fireball) but so can Neutral or Faction cards.

Sword Thief gives Rogues options other class don't have (like running up to 8 disablers). That's good enough for me.

[Kip thorp]

Imo, Seductress is better. She survives Zalblast, Majiya, and most 3cc allies. She stops PB, DMT, Murderous Hulk, Voracious Arachnid and heaps more. And she has boobs. Case closed.

. Sums it up eh bro!

[Fionn Maccumhail]

It shouldn't be a contest. Would Mages ever consider running Special Delivery over Fireball? Sword Thief should basically be a Rogue auto-include. No class-specific card should be able to be replaced with a faction-specific card imo. Seductress will still see a ton of play in Warriors and Mages.

Both cards are exactly the same except:
-Sword Thief can be used regardless of each player's resources
-Layarian Seductress has +1 health and prevents allies from using activated abilities.

Imo, Seductress is better. She survives Zalblast, Majiya, and most 3cc allies. She stops PB, DMT, Murderous Hulk, Voracious Arachnid and heaps more. And she has boobs. Case closed.


After spending some time using Ravagers, I've decided that they aren't really bad, just a little inconsistent (if you don't draw items) and very hard to play well. Once you get good with them though, they are decent. However, Spitfire Hound is garbage and I wouldn't even think of running him. Maybe if he was a 2/3 so he could be useful if you have no item to destroy, I'd consider. At the moment I'm running Ironhide Karash / Yari Bladedancer depending on what hero I'm using.

I'm coming to the same conclusion, with Garth nerfed and RLT about to go to 3CC sword thief really should go back to its original stats, 2/3 is pretty poor. Ability to "stun" Dakrath is the only real advantage it has.

[Ranĝelo]

Just remove it from hunter and make it a little better for Serena

I agree about Thoughtripper's Cutlass.

Aetherborn Wisp and Glimmer of Hope...
Aetherborn Wisp had 6 attack points against me... i think it should have an attack point limit.


What about Wulwen scout? No discussion... it's overpower, obviously.

[Daemon Rayge]

I agree about Thoughtripper's Cutlass.

Aetherborn Wisp and Glimmer of Hope...
Aetherborn Wisp had 6 attack points against me... i think it should have an attack point limit.


What about Wulwen scout? No discussion... it's overpower, obviously.

Wulven Scout is no different than Tracking Gear, except with a body. No one uses that, and I don't expect Scout to be very useful either except in niche situations.

[lentan]

I don't like this 'class card should be powerful' rule. I know it came from Wulven but still. (it's not even enforced anyways)

Class cards can be powerful (like Fireball) but so can Neutral or Faction cards.

Sword Thief gives Rogues options other class don't have (like running up to 8 disablers). That's good enough for me.

Actually, I haven't even seen Fireball used that much on the test server.

I might even go as far as to say that Fireball is no longer a measure of a good card, just a decent card.

[Airact]

I agree about Thoughtripper's Cutlass.

Aetherborn Wisp and Glimmer of Hope...
Aetherborn Wisp had 6 attack points against me... i think it should have an attack point limit.


What about Wulwen scout? No discussion... it's overpower, obviously.

What?

Wulven scout is terrible.

[Ranĝelo]

Wulven Scout is no different than Tracking Gear, except with a body. No one uses that, and I don't expect Scout to be very useful either except in niche situations.

Yes, it's a 3/3/4 ally. Very good atk/life for a cost 3... i think it can give a great advantage if summoned on turn 3. Maybe you are right, we will see. Yesterday my opponent had it and i killed, because i didn't want my hand is visible.

[dranjo]

I think Wulven scout's ability should be an active ability with cost 1