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    DP Visionary 4Ak's Avatar
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    ...i agree with Kylt. but...if you like the deck big and are happy with it, its fine. i see some potential in having that many cards, u can basically play t2-t4 allies and wipe the board with TW while u still have plenty allies to come afterwards, and wipe the board again.
    ...me, i like my odds to play t5 TW and t6 Jas+Retreat to be as high as possible, as i can go control all the way down from there and for that i want my Zhanna Slim-Fit xD
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    For starters, thanks for all the feedback

    @nikcansmash
    The idea is that after 20 cards or so the opponents deck is out of steam. The reason I run 4 of those unique monsters is because of the size of my deck, and I want them early/mid and late game aswell haha. These are also the most broken cards I can play and see no reason to play other monsters in their place.

    If I lower my count, I wouldn't be able to play 3 Mass Purification, which is the reason I don't lose to warriors. I wouldn't be able to play 4 Healing Touch, which is the reason I have a reasonable Eladwen matchup and a lot of decks just can't race me to death. Because they are out of steam and playing double healing touch vs a deck which has 15 cards left is devastating. They start to draw dead cards and grind with what they have left and I am still going all out.

    I do understand what you are saying, but the purpose of the deck/article was trying to prove that in this game, a fat deck can be competitive .

    Glad that you like my decks, will be posting more of them soon.

    @Kylt
    The thing about healing touch is, its multidimensional. Healing monsters, anti dmg race and mitigating bad hands during midgame to make up for dmg taken.

    Well, funny thing is. While playing with my Zhana deck I sometimes get badmouthed. When people see my foils and 55 card deck they assume i'm a noob and say things like "you don't understand the game" "lucky noob" etc.

    In my defense I have been playing at 320 rating with this deck for the past 2 seasons. And I have beaten a lot of clan people from tj, a1, bp and ka.

    Also because every competitive deck is playing 40ish cards, I wanted to write an interesting deck article about a 55 card deck that could survive in the 300 rating. Saying I haven't thought about it enough, couldn't be more wrong to be honest. I have theorized, calculated and playtested quite a bit for the deck started winning

    @ragosnos
    thats exactly how the deck feels to me aswell, glad to hear you like it

    @raphael majere
    I'd give it a chance!

    @4ak
    My lategame is indeed amazing. being able to go tidal wave and drop 1 or 2 monsters in the same turn is devastating. And as you stated, I hardly run out of steam, ever. But as some of you stated, to each his own. I do think it has a lot to do with playstyle and player preference.


    @everyone
    Try watching some of my replays IG or on youtube to see how the deck plays. I think a lot would become clearer after seeing the deck in action. Cards like Healing Touch seem horrible on paper but are absolutely amazing. I do seem to plateau with the deck around 320/330 so maybe its not absolutely top tier and its certainly not perfect as it stands.
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    Also, if you watch the link of me vs BP Darkenheart you will see the use of Healing Touch. In the end he tried dmg racing me with fireball and lightning strike, leaving me with 1 life. In my turn I Healing Touch for to put me out of kill range again. This is huge and I have won many games because of this. People calculate game shots in the end and give up field. A Healing Touch then comes to ruin their day.
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    I'd at least suggest a 2/2 split of CoI and Puwen on the chance you draw into too many. Also, if you're running Healing touch, have you considered KotGD, its a good fatty to finish the game.
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    i really love your decks !! i took amber for a spin AND ... wont say more than i am really waiting for u to start building a deck for all the heroes for me to copy them , your deck really suits my play style
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    Check out SES Aphex's new replay vs A1 SamYou2Death. Zhanna vs Baduruu.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeIZ7K0BtkU

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    @nikcansmash
    I only really need one 2cc drop. So if I have a t2 or t5 (3cc + 2cc ideally) drop i'm content. Since Irum is a vastly superior card in my opinion. I don't see any reason to play a 2cc drop that is not as good as Irum, for the moments I already have a 2cc drop and want to push. The deck is more about playing the best cards, over and over again. I haven't tried KoGTD to be honest. Although the Healing Touch combo seems very appealing, I don't think he will be as consistent in terms of field presence when compared to Sandworm, of whom I can vouch for will survive at least 1 turn, putting me in a position to regain field. This is where KoTGD fails because he is more prone to hero weapons and multiple allies attacking him.

    @ragosonos
    I'm currently messing around with the Hunters and Wulven types. I think one of those is going to be the subject of my new article. If you'd like to play vs me, i'm always up for a game! =]
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    Lol everyone is hating because they only see the logic for 40 card. You have a case, but u can argue it better.

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    @Akratch
    English is my 3rd language so maybe thats why lol bear with me =]
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    I think one day those so called super players get that 50+ decks can be consistent and very powerfull. If there will be more draw options, more good cards and more ways to stall a game... 50+ decs start to be more variable and viable. We also have to consider new hero in SF - Praxis, bigger deck will be good against him.

    Btw standard 40 cards zhanna mostly loose against my Dances with thigers MS. But I permanently loosing against 50+ cards Zhannas :-)

    And finally, the currently best deck in SE (i will not call this evil name) is 50+ one ;-)

    I like your deck and like your approach.
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