GG's Lance - the Diplomat (300)

[ragosonos]

to kill karash ofcourse??? ... u cant kill karash with the diplomat u just summoned and if u have an aldonu u can defenetly kill karash .. for me t2 diplomat is from worstt t2 allies .. for me i prefer puwen and of course champion of irum ... in all my human decks.. i have 4 2cc allies which are 2 puwen and 2 chamion of irum and i tried every thing and every ally and this is the best 2cc resource curve of allies we can have on human heroes

[ragosonos]

To kill karash, of course.
But drop diplomat only if you have another diplomat, aldon, or TH on hand. Otherwise it is just a waste of card.

karash can be a big problem for lance since your ankle breaker will not work for it.
Unlike mage and hunter, rouge lacks cheap ability card.
And hasting an ally to just kill karash seems ridiculous.

Another reason for T2 diplomat is that you want to drop IGG on T4 and kill opponent ally to draw.
If you have aldon and diplomat, you can kill every 3cc ally.
If you fall behind on early game, often you just cannot bring back the game and just lose.

You might think, if you drop diplomat on T2, why not puwen?
Of course puwen is better for T2, but he is pretty much useless in late game.
diplomat can be used throughout the game. The main targets are night shade, wulven savage, oracle, armord, champion, karash, not to mention stealth allies.

I used to run 3 diplomat and went up to 322.
After a while, for some reason I could not find a good use of him, so I don't use him now.
As a result, my rating has dropped to 317. I wonder if I should use diplomat again.

good explanation but still.. what can diplomat do in this and puwen cant do ?? but puwen can do much more than diplomat even against karash ..

for example if u r second...
enemy t1 nothing
your t1 nothing
enemy t2 karash
IF your t2 puwen
enemy t3 can use dmt to kill puwen with karash but puwen atleast blocked 1 damage
IF your t2 diplomat ..
enemy t3 kill your diplomat and put any powerful 3cc ally as garg as he wont need the dmt to kill diplomat
your t3 ..... honestly for me .. i dont know what to do ..




if u first ..
t1 no
t1 no
IF t2 diplomat
t2 karash
if u r lucky t3 aldon and kill
t3 garg ... then u will have to take off 2 hp from your aldon or kill the diplomat to kill it .. or dmt and u wont block the ping by puwen
u made a loss any way by taking hp from your human ,weak hp, ally
IF puwen .. u will kill garg or block ping damage without harming aldon and with a very much better condition


dunno whats the crisis on.. but i totally think puwen is better and on 300+ matches u will see champion of irum and puwen muchhhhh ore than u will see diplomat .. if u even see it...

and if u used champion of irum ... it will turn to be a beast if survived, .. its even better than puwen but some weak when going first .. u wont kill the karash neither a puwen even if u summoned a t3 aldon


hope this helps

[Rated GG]

The way I see it... going first, any 2 attack ally can kill Karash/CoI with TH or Aldon...

Lances cannot deal with Wulven savage /Karash/stealth/other lances... which is why Diplomat is his best bet. Without assassinate... stealth like night out can stick for a very very long time... Lances ironically can't deal with stealth too well.
I am not out to make my great match ups better but to make my bad match ups manageable.

[Unruler]

going first, any 2 attack ally can kill CoI with Aldon...

Nope.

[Jets]

Nope.

you misquoted him.

[Unruler]

you misquoted him.

Nope. I edited his quote just to mention one case it was wrong at.

[Jets]

Nope. I edited his quote just to mention one case it was wrong at.

he said with TH or Aldon. not with aldon. keyword is or. completely different from what you edited it to be.

[Unruler]

he said with TH or Aldon. not with aldon. keyword is or. completely different from what you edited it to be.

You can do that with TH but not with Aldon. Aldon should not have been mentioned.

[udacian]

dunno whats the crisis on.. but i totally think puwen is better and on 300+ matches u will see champion of irum and puwen muchhhhh ore than u will see diplomat .. if u even see it...

Look at a bigger picture. You do not want to see diplomat as a 2cc ally. When I was running 3 diplomat, I would see him as more like an ability card just like Artful Squire. So I was also running 3 CoI. So you have 6 2cc allies to start a reliable early game. But like I said those allies can be used throughout the game. When you build a deck, you might be tempted to imagine a typical opening scenario. But building a deck with mere focus on first T4 or the best case scenario is usually a bad idea.

The reason eladowen is so easy to use yet powerful is that she (and mage in general) has almost no synergy. FB and LS never be a dead draw. As far as lance goes, going first with puwen on T2 would be great. But more game progresses, less important the difference between 2cc and 3cc becomes. When you draw puwen in a mid game with 6 resources, that means nothing. 3cc ally would be a better draw in almost any cases.
That is why I prefer diplomat to puwen with at least lance.

Also, you do not want to evaluate a card based on popularity. Some human decks do not need aldon. Put it another way, less popular means less expected, therefore it could be a big threat.

[Jets]

You can do that with TH but not with Aldon. Aldon should not have been mentioned.

going first, any 2 attack ally can kill Karash/CoI with TH or Aldon...

you can kill karash with aldon. you can kill CoI with TH. that was clearly the intention of his sentence. there's nothing wrong with what he wrote.