Mind control too strong?

[Kartoonstew]

Hi everyone,

Full disclosure: I'm relatively new to this game and I'm okay at the game so far, but not great. I'm still building all of my decks and my online ranking usually sits around 170 right now. Average.

Anyways, whether I'm on the receiving end of Mind Control or I'm using it myself it always feels way too good. Whenever I load my deck up with 4 mind controls. I always crack a little smirk whenever I get one in my hand because I can take out any enemy from the game and have it cause moderate-to-severe damage to their hero, for only 5 energy. It's so strong, it's silly. When you know you're playing someone who has 4 Mind Controls in their deck, you just feel stupid. Granted I've beaten plenty of people who use my control, but my bullshit detector always kicks in whenever its cast.

Anyways, I know I'm a newbie, but I was just curious as to how other people thought about this card.

Thanks!

[Peithoson]

Mind Control is a good card but no it is not overpowered, especially if you are facing against a lot of smaller cost allies or solo hero decks.

[Airact]

I still stay to my statement that it's an overcosted kill spell.

If there was a kill spell that costed 4 but didn't force the ally to attack, I would probably abandon Mind Control on the spot (or run both and cut Mind Controls if I didn't need that many).

[Warr Byrd]

Welcome to the forums!

You are not the first new player to be concerned with this card, and I doubt you'll be the last. But it's not overpowered. As Peithoson pointed out, it's worthless against rush and solo deck builds. Even with more mid to late game decks, decks that do run big allies, Mind Control is manageable for several reasons. First off, most decks can only play it a maximum of four times. So, you play four allies, they all get Mind Controlled, your fifth ally is safe. Second, since Elementals tend to have weak draw, they tend to have a low resource count even in the late game, so Mind Control tends to be the only thing the Elemental can play, maybe a cheap ally on the side. Third, the damage from Mind Control can be offset or limited by playing multiple weak allies or by playing allies with on-summon effects, so that they do something before they are killed. Finally, if worse comes to worse, it is always possible to bait an Elemental player into playing a Mind Control to take out a big ally, and then playing a bigger ally right afterwards before the Elemental has drawn a replacement.

So no, Mind Control is not OP.

[Heimdall]

Welcome to the forums

Hmm, Warr Byrd basically said it.

Just one thing in general about all these kind of threads: You always have to see the whole card pool of a class. People often call things overpowered because of a specific strong effect, without considering the weaknesses of that class. Some classes need special tools to compensate the things they can't do well. There were threads like this about cards like Tidal Wave, Supernova, Blood Frenzy etc. too, and people just didn't see the card pool around. So, definitely not OP.

[Wes Davis]

I would rather play an opponent with 4 mind controls than 2 Supernovas or Tidal Waves.

It's a strong card, but, I don't usually find it to be a game changer. It's a 1 for 1 card usually with a steep casting cost. You wont usually be able to take out a creature that cost more resources to cast than Mind Control.

Don't get me wrong, it's strong. I've been Mind Controlled to death a time or two. It's just not a game changer. The thing I like best about it is teh bonus durability loss you can get out of it at times.

Woudn't be in the top 20 cards I'd look to Nerf myself. In fact, I can't think of an elemental card on that list.

[Sprinkles]

I still stay to my statement that it's an overcosted kill spell.

If there was a kill spell that costed 4 but didn't force the ally to attack, I would probably abandon Mind Control on the spot (or run both and cut Mind Controls if I didn't need that many).

I think that's an oversimplification. It's not only a removal, it's a direct damage too, relieving the user of having to find other ways of dealing damage. If you use 3 Mind Controls against an unarmored opponent each game that is most likely a minimal (considering you will probably save them for attack 3 and above allies) of 9 damage. Not to mention simply using ONE will provide protection to your own hero and allies because people will be hesitant to play a big fatty even if the timing would seem right otherwise. There is no way to justify not bringing Mind Control in this current game.

It's not OP tho =p

[Kartoonstew]

wow, thanks for all of the responses guys! great community it seems!
Knowledge = dropped

[Mightyoak713]

It used to better....I never pack four anymore

[FDL]

Everything has pretty much been said, but I'll add that MC is very good when you're ahead, it's averge when trying to buy time, but it's very expansive when you don't have board control.

You should still expect 99% of Elemental decks to run 4.