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    Angry Don't you people think rogue is too buggy?

    Rogue's armors, weapons and abilities ought to be altered!!

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    I dont know since when you play SE but as an old player i can tell you that every deck has a counter deck that will seem to be OP for his opponent.
    You need to focus in what your deck needs to counter rogues and i'm pretty sure that you will find an answer to beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianzero View Post
    Rogue's armors, weapons and abilities ought to be altered!!
    Not sure what you mean by "buggy". Not seen any issues. A good class. Solid equipment. Lance my favourite hero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoosey View Post
    Not sure what you mean by "buggy". Not seen any issues. A good class. Solid equipment. Lance my favourite hero.
    he means that rogues are OP, read THIS

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    Lol bloody troll thread. So he thinks that Rogues are OP so he starts a thread to nerf Rogues by giving the excuse that Rogue equipment is buggy. Obviously hasn't played the game long enough to realise that Rogues are too slow to pose a threat to Mages and that Mages are better all around then Rogues. Pretty simple, Spelleaters? Ley Line Nexus the Rogue's Bands and his dead
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    Well, yeah...
    ... if your hero is a rogue, and you grind vs. the AI, you get a hung game way too often. So rogues ARE buggy....
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    On a more helpful note here's your typical Eladwen Rush to beat ALL CLASSES including Rogues

    Eladwen

    ALLIES
    Kris x4
    Puwen x4
    Priest of the Light x4
    Aldon x3
    Tainted Oracle x4

    ABILITIES
    Fireball x4
    Lightning Strike x4
    Supernova x4
    Bad Santa x4

    35 cards total dump in any card to fill up the other 5 cards slots. Dagger of Unmaking and Snow Sapphire could work for beginners but I won't recommend it since they die to Stop Thief. If your so worried about Rogue equipment dump in 4 LLNs and 1 more Aldon

    Play it right and you'll see why everybody is screaming OP at Mages and not Rogues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colosal View Post
    he means that rogues are OP, read THIS
    Ah. Ok, then he needs more practise. Rogues are good, but Mages will always have the edge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a player View Post
    Well, yeah...
    ... if your hero is a rogue, and you grind vs. the AI, you get a hung game way too often. So rogues ARE buggy....
    Is this sarcastic? If not, why would you say that's due to the rogue?

    If true, could it simply be a matter of longer game = more opportunity for hang, period?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowborn View Post
    On a more helpful note here's your typical Eladwen Rush to beat ALL CLASSES including Rogues

    Eladwen

    ALLIES
    Kris x4
    Puwen x4
    Priest of the Light x4
    Aldon x3
    Tainted Oracle x4

    ABILITIES
    Fireball x4
    Lightning Strike x4
    Supernova x4
    Bad Santa x4

    35 cards total dump in any card to fill up the other 5 cards slots. Dagger of Unmaking and Snow Sapphire could work for beginners but I won't recommend it since they die to Stop Thief. If your so worried about Rogue equipment dump in 4 LLNs and 1 more Aldon

    Play it right and you'll see why everybody is screaming OP at Mages and not Rogues
    I think we can differentiate a little between 'OP' and 'fta' (first turn advantage)

    If elad is OP, she would have won every single tourney but she didn't.

    In fact, at the last WC 2012, there was no elad in top 16. (Unless I am wrong)

    (Was there elad in top 32?)

    That said, if elad goes first and she gets her k,p,p,a, it's very hard to recover. (Kris, puwen, pol, aldon)

    Have we seen the end of rush elad in dp? Nope. Will she be relatively weaker and less used? My guess, yes.

    From the angle of Game balance, the KPPA elad is not good. Simply because players like to think that they are smart and come with a lot of innovative decks, decks that define or break the meta. But if players cannot deal with KPPA elad or keep losing to it, they'll get frustrated and leave the game.

    Thankfully, deck size is min 40, and the chances of pulling off a fta KPPA is not that easy. (I too have had my fair share of the pain of facing KPPA elad, thank you very much)

    Lastly, OP is a relative term. A weaker player tends to scream OP at everything simply because he is unable to deal with certain deck archetypes.

    There are many things a player can do to learn, even without using the forums. Just watch the games of 'pro' players and one can learn a lot.

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