New victor

[Edheren]

This was posted before in the hunter strategy section but I'm looking for a bit more input.

Hey all, been working for a while on improving my decks. Have a couple variants of Jericho and a nice Berserker Boris that works quite well. But I have always loved the hunters. I said in my original post that I didnt think Victor was viable, though, and at the time, I certainly thought so. But I have been messing around, and think its time to try again. The deck list I have at this time, is as follows. I will make notes about what I think I will remove. As far as allies are concerned, I am not sure if I should keep Sandworm, or replace with Raven.) Help!

Note: I tweaked it a bit - changed out death trap for flaming arrows and removed into the forest and surprise attack.

1x Victor

3x Jasmine (3 not enough?)
4x Puwen
3x Aldon
4x Priest of the Light (4 too much?)
3x Armored Sandworm (Replace with Raven?)
2x Aeon

4x Poison Arrow (Of course.)
2x Flaming Arrow
4x Retreat (Important for board control!)
2x Bad Santa (Not sure...)
3x Wrath of the Forest (Card draw and armor.)
1x Spelleater Bands (Someone mentioned I should have this in to deal with mages.)
4x Soul Seeker (Staying!)

Ok, so that is the list so far. What do you guys think? I have been looking around at some amazing builds - Raph's control deck strikes me as pretty awesome. But I think I am going for something a tad different here. Anyway, I do understand the mechanics of the game pretty well. Just would like some input here. Last question - Ley Line Nexus... Need it?

[Zhou86]

http://www.shadowera.com/showthread....trol-quot-Deck

Try this.

[Edheren]

Yeah I mentioned this very deck in my original post below my deck list. Looks fun. I don't want to copy though

[Zhou86]

I feel WoTF x 4 is enough for draws, you probably don't need Bad Santa (You give your opponent cards too).
Try replace the Bad Santa with Tainted Oracle.
I would remove 1 retreat and bump the flaming arrow to 3 to deal with those pesky Gargoyle or Sandworms (with your hero ability)
Would remove 1 PoTL and bump Jasmine to 4.

[wreon]

You are over estimating PA. Think about it.

PA doesn't kill most allies on it's own, is counter heavily by heals, gargoyles, SW. At best it has half card value, as it doesn't do much on it's own. This is the main reason why Victor cannot reach tier 1. If PA acted like retreat or CB, victor would be an auto tier one.

[Edheren]

Hmmm. I see your point regarding PA but I disagree. If played right I think with the allies you should have in the deck, time and a bit of patience, things work well.

Thanks for the input regarding bad Santa. That's too true and I think I may just drop them both in favor of 2 TO. I've been thinking about the PotL situation and I have to say, I don't see why 1 more jasmine is better. Would you mind explaining that for me please?

[Zhou86]

Hmm ok this is tricky one, I will try my best to answer. Basically you would want to maximize your control over your opponent's allies. For going second, most of the time Jasmine is better as she has better survivability. On t5, if you have a Jasmine & PA in hand, typically you can already switch over for board control. Cast Jasmine, cast PA on opponent ally to protect Jasmine, then next turn you can use Jasmine's ability to control the board.

But then again, this is only my humble 2 cents. Best is to play as much as you can and tweak the numbers.

On the side note, Raven is a very interesting ally to consider in your deck. It gives you a very strong board presence, paired with your arrows, you can pretty much see most of your opponent's ally dmg go to zero. Together with Aeon, you pretty much win the game.

[Edheren]

Ok perfect opportunity for this next question then- and thank you by the way for your explanation. It made perfect sense. Ok so - Raven or Sandworm? Which is better in the deck? Everyone says Sandworm is necessary for mages. BUT. If I am running 2 aeon, 3 aldon, 3 raven and 2 ley line nexus... Then maybe Sandworm isn't altogether a necessity...? What do you think about that?

[Zhou86]

Actually, Sandworm makes more sense at the moment, since the meta are mostly mages & zaladar, sandworm with aldon is annoying for them..with Aeon down, the only way they can kill the SW is Nova + Burn aeon and freeze the Worm (if Eladwen). For Zal, MC your sandworm is not worth it as it only deals 2 damage, even with Aldon in play.

If you ask me, I would reduce the LLN to 1 or 0, and go for Sandworms, at least for the moment. No deck can last for a long time unchanged, as you climb up the ladder, tweaks are definitely necessary. If you see more Ambers/Zhanna, maybe Raven will be more suitable.

[Edheren]

Great thanks much!