Side effect damage from Brutal Minotaur and Molten Destroyer

[Zoki]

So I found somewhere on forum a while ago that someone asked what would happen for example if I play mage (Eladwen) and I have 5 health and my opponent is some shadow hero with 7 health and also he has Brutal Minotaur in field witch has 2 health for example, after Eladwens ability used on BM. Question was: what would happen if I cast Supernova, will it be draw game, I would loose my 5HP and opponent lose 5HP from supernova and 2 more from killed Brutal Minotaur. Answer to this is I will loose game cause that 2 dmg from killed BM is calculated later, I had this situation in my game some time ago.

Now I come to new situation, which happened to me 2-3 days ago. I was with my Eladwen and I had 7 health, opponent was at 5 health and he had 2 Molten Destroyers in game. I had Supernova in hand and thought great I will win this cause side effect dmg from killed Molten Destroyers will be calculated after supernova damage. Guess what, it was a draw game?!

My question is why is side effect damage from Molten Destroyer and Brutal Minotaur calculated differently?

[danae]

The damage done for those two allies are calculated differently. For Brutal Minotaur, it says "When Brutal Minotaur is killed, its controller takes 2 damage." meaning the controller only gets damaged when Brutal Minotaur dies.

For Molten Destroyer it say "Molten Destroyer deals 1 fire damage to any hero or ally that damages it." meaning the dealer of the damage is dealt the damage instantaneously.

So when you cast supernova when you are at 5 health, your opponent is at 7 and kill a Brutal Minotaur it will be calculated like so:

1. Damage to you and opponent = 5
2. Your opponent goes to 2, you go to 0
3. Game identifies you as dead. Winner your opponent
4. Brutal Minotaur dies. Deal two damage to your opponent bringing him to 0.

When you cast supernova when you are at 6 health, your opponent is at 5 and kill a Molten Destroyer it will be calculated like so:

1. Damage to you and opponent = 5
2. Damage is dealt to you from Molten = 1
3. Your opponent goes to 0, you go to 0
4. Game declares it a draw

So far, I think only Molten Destroyer is the only ally that does instantaneous damage. Deathbone and Brutal Minotaur will function the same way.

[Gondorian]

The answer from Danae is correct. Molten Destroyer triggers "on damage", which happens before the "on death" trigger of Brutal Minotaur and also before your opponent's hero loses the 5 health from the damage.