if retreat was neutral

[Warr Byrd]

i cannot for the life of me understand what you are trying to say in this part

Ter Adun has the cards to deal with a t5 Raven t6 Aeon. As such, if you think it is a big issue, then it must be because is ability doesn't directly allow you to control the board. As such, any hero that didn't have an ability that directly allows board control would have the same weakness against t5 Raven t6 Aeon. Namely, the Priests, Elementalis, and some of the weapon based heroes (such as Serena, who should nearly always attack the hero with her ability).

[Unruler]

Ter Adun has the cards to deal with a t5 Raven t6 Aeon. As such, if you think it is a big issue, then it must be because is ability doesn't directly allow you to control the board. As such, any hero that didn't have an ability that directly allows board control would have the same weakness against t5 Raven t6 Aeon. Namely, the Priests, Elementalis, and some of the weapon based heroes (such as Serena, who should nearly always attack the hero with her ability).

Tidal Wave, Mind Control, Assassination?

I do agree, that Boris and Ter Adun having hard times regaining board control, even though they have Valiant Defender, Berserker's Edge and Crippling Blow, it's still can be tricky.

[Warr Byrd]

Did you bother reading, Unruler? I said hero abilities, you listed cards. Although the Warrior card pool has a slightly harder time dealing with t5 Raven, t6 Aeon than Priests, Warriors can deal with that combo just as easily as Elementals and Rogues, they just need more than one card because they don't have instant kills.

[SpeakerOfTruth]

Well even though Unruler missed the point of your post, he has a good point though. One does have to consider the card pool available to each hero, not just the ability alone. The fact is many heroes have relatively fuss free outs to the combo that do not require much board presence beforehand. Bringing out the combo on a Ter Adun with no board is *almost* like a nail in the coffin.

But then again I am not an expert with Ter Adun, so...

[Caitlyn0]

you know i am always willing to play you MS when we run into each other in irc i jsut havent had the most time to play... when i do im usually trying to fit in a tournament match or a siege match.

[Unruler]

Did you bother reading, Unruler? I said hero abilities, you listed cards. Although the Warrior card pool has a slightly harder time dealing with t5 Raven, t6 Aeon than Priests, Warriors can deal with that combo just as easily as Elementals and Rogues, they just need more than one card because they don't have instant kills.

Well, yeah, kinda misunderstood you. I listed ability cards available to hero and you meant hero's abilities, not class abilities. But that doesn't mean that hero doesn't have them.

[glencocoe]

Than game would be twice as annoying.

Trust me...I've been using shadow heroes WAY more these days, but even I have to say NO.